As a contributor:

I don’t like the YIN format, but Lada makes some good points below.

I don’t understand the "extraction code should not be needed any more” comment, 
but know that Shepherds and, to a lesser extent, Copy Editors, rely on being 
able to extract the YANG modules and/or instance examples from the `xml2rfc` 
XML files.

K.


> On Nov 11, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Ladislav Lhotka <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> tom petch <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> 
>> <tp>
>> In the category of general annoyance, rather than the points above, the IETF 
>> has abolished the page number.  Look at recent RFC and pagination has 
>> vanished.  The justification is that RFC are now available in different 
>> format and that page numbers are not consistent across the format so they 
>> must be eliminated.
>> 
>> This came up on RFC Interest and I asked how to reference a piece of text 
>> and was told that you include lots of section numbers.  I asked about 
>> 50-page YANG modules with no sections but this is a requirement that has 
>> escaped the tool-makers.  One suggestion was to include lots of numbered 
>> sub-headings, another to include separate sourcecode elements with an anchor 
>> for each.
> 
> I share your concerns, but these developments are hard to avoid - people want 
> to read the documents on the small screens of their phones, and a fixed 
> format isn't well suited for that.
> 
>> One passing comment was that with v3 xml the extraction code should not be 
>> needed any more.  I do not understand but expect that there will be 
>> interesting times.
> 
> I don't know what the plan is, but in the recent survey on IETF authoring 
> tools, I suggested the option of including YANG modules in xml2rfc sources as 
> foreign-namespace blocks in the YIN format. This could solve most of these 
> issues and, in particular, allow for safely reflowing text in descriptions 
> etc. along with the rest of the RFC.
> 
> Regarding markup inside description/contact/reference/error-message, I think 
> XML is in fact still the best option. Light-weight choices such as markdown 
> are too brittle for these purposes.
> 
> Lada

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