Hi, 
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发件人: tom petch [mailto:[email protected]] 
发送时间: 2020年12月24日 0:49
收件人: Qin Wu <[email protected]>; Dhruv Dhody <[email protected]>; Lou 
Berger <[email protected]>
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs <[email protected]>; NETMOD Group <[email protected]>
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10

From: Qin Wu <[email protected]>
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:30

Hi, Tom:
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发件人: netmod [mailto:[email protected]] 代表 tom petch
发送时间: 2020年12月23日 19:14
收件人: Dhruv Dhody <[email protected]>; Lou Berger <[email protected]>
抄送: NetMod WG Chairs <[email protected]>; NETMOD Group <[email protected]>
主题: Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10

From: netmod <[email protected]> on behalf of Dhruv Dhody 
<[email protected]>
Sent: 21 December 2020 17:12

Hi Lou, WG,

I find the motivation in the Introduction to be focused on ECA at the network 
devices (with all the talk about issues with Centralized network management).

I see the value of ECA on the controller as well, say a customer network 
controller or an orchestrator can set the ECA on a central controller 
(reference ACTN in TEAS WG). Perhaps you would consider adding a sentence to 
describe this as well. The client-server terminology in the rest of the 
document covers it already.

And I do see value in this and support adoption.

<tp>
My take is that the I-D is unclear on what ECA is.

[Qin]: Thanks Tom, Adrian raised the similar issue about the abstract 
improvement and we will address this in v-01.

ECA has been worked on in at least two IETF WG AFAICT.  It cropped up in I2RS 
but as I recall, it was along the lines of 'This is ECA'  'No It is not'  'Yes 
it is' which gave me the impression that ECA is not a well-defined, or 
well-understood, term.

More recently, I2NSF have produced a YANG capability-data-model which is 55 
pages of ECA.  Lacking a definition in this netmod I-D, I am unclear what the 
relationship is between the I2NSF I-D and the netmod I-D, whether or not they 
are using ECA in the same sense.

[Qin]: I haven't followed closely on what had been done in I2NSF.  But I did 
talk with two of I2NSF proponents in this year. They tend to agree the model 
proposed in draft-wwx will serve as the basis for I2NSF security policy model 
or NSF facing interface DM. Unfortunately I haven't seen their update to do the 
alignment. I missed their I2NSF recharter discussion meeting. But I would also 
highly recommend they import the model in draft-wwx and reuse some of these 
building block. I plan to raise this issue later on.
For I2RS model, it was packet forwarding policy model, which has been expired 
for many years. If that draft needs to be revived, I think we can follow the 
similar approach for I2NSF security policy model.

[tp] No need to bother with I2RS, I think that that I-D is well buried but the 
I2NSF work is well advanced, one in the RFC Editor queue, two submitted to the 
IESG while the capability data model has had YANG Doctor, Tsvart and Genart 
reviews none of which doubted the approach to ECA so you could find I2NSF 
saying that the Netmod WG should fall into line with prior art!.

[Qin]:Good suggestion, thanks Tom, I revisit some of these drafts in I2NSF 
again and find they lack concrete reference for ECA policy paradigm and 
definition. Let's see if we can make alignment for this.

Tom Petch

Dhruv

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 3:59 AM Lou Berger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10
>
> Please voice your support or technical objections on list before the 
> end of December 21, any time zone.
>
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