Hi,

I guess I do not agree with the premise of the draft, which is that the
client
needs to take over control of the system-controlled configuration.  I will
wait for a draft update and see if that helps understand it better.


Andy

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:21 AM Kent Watsen <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> >IMO this draft overlaps the factory-default datastore.
> >Unfortunately, RFC 8808 does not document NMDA, Appendix A3 details
> >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8342#appendix-A.3
> >It does not say if <factory-default> datastore feeds into <running> or
> into <intended>.
> >It is not clear how <system> would interact with other datastores.
> [Qin]: As described in Appendix-A.3, two ways to interact with other
> datastore are discussed, one is interact implicitly, the other is to use
> RPC to trigger application of the datastore's data, in factory default
> setting case, <factory-reset> rpc will reset the contents of all relevant
> datastores to factory default state.
> The extreme case of factory default state is no configuration at all for
> each datastore.
>
>
> Right.  Also, the word “flow” doesn’t seem quite right…at least in my
> mind, it suggests an ongoing relationship, whereas <factory-default> is
> really for one-time initializations.
>
> From https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8808#section-3:
>
>    Management operations:  The contents of the datastore is set by the
>       server in an implementation-dependent manner.  The contents cannot
>       be changed by management operations via the Network Configuration
>       Protocol (NETCONF), RESTCONF, the CLI, etc., unless specialized,
>       dedicated operations are provided.  The datastore can be read
>       using the standard NETCONF/RESTCONF protocol operations.  The
>       "factory-reset" operation copies the factory default contents to
>       <running> and, if present, <startup> and/or <candidate>.  The
>       contents of these datastores is then propagated automatically to
>       any other read-only datastores, e.g., <intended> and
>       <operational>.
>
>
>
> >It is not clear why it is even needed since <factory-default> contains
> only system settings.
> [Qin]: I agree <factory-default> could have system setting. But
> unspecified for some reasons.
> Based on earlier discussion on factory default, what content is included
> in <factory-default> and how to format this content, e.g., YANG instance
> file format
> Have been ruled out of the scope. See the diff in v-07
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-07.txt
>
>
>
> Regardless, <factory-default> cannot be used for immutable “system"
> defined objects, since it’s contents initialize client-editable datastores.
>
>
> K.
>
>
>
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