On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 7:19 AM Qin Wu <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank Andy for valuable comments, I have update introduction in the github
> to clarify the motivation and provide more guidance
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> See diff:
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> https://author-tools.ietf.org/diff?url_1=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/billwuqin/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags/main/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-12.txt
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I cannot find any evidence that the IETF module-tags are being used
anywhere.
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8819.html#name-ietf-yang-module-tags-regis

Why do we need to go through every leaf in every YANG module and decide if
it is a metric, log, trace, or info?
Wouldn't every leaf be tagged as 'info'?

IMO it makes sense (in some cases) to improve the granularity of the
module-tag with per-node tagging.
That means using the same tag registry defined in RFC 8819, not inventing a
new classification system.



-Qin
>


Andy


> *发件人:* netmod [mailto:[email protected]] *代表 *Andy Bierman
> *发送时间:* 2024年2月21日 8:18
> *收件人:* Kent Watsen <[email protected]>
> *抄送:* [email protected]
> *主题:* Re: [netmod] RE I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
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> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 8:03 AM Kent Watsen <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Juergen, Tom, Andy,
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> Gentle reminder.
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> I read draft-11.  It is an improvement. No objections.
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> There are 4 IETF tags defined:  metrics, logs, traces, info
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> I do not see much value in these standard tags, but more guidance and
> explanation would help.
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> Since the IETF does not define any protocol usage of tags, there is little
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> impact caused by this draft, except for the additional administrative
> overhead.
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> Kent // shepherd
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> Andy
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> > On Nov 14, 2023, at 4:49 PM, Kent Watsen <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Juergen, Tom, Andy,
> >
> > The previous WGLC for this draft didn’t succeed due to your comments.
> > Qin’s update (1) below removes all the (metric) specific node-tags.
> > All that is left now is the generic mechanism for tagging nodes.
> > Can you confirm that this update (-11) addresses your concerns?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kent
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> >
> >> On Oct 23, 2023, at 6:28 AM, Qin Wu <bill.wu=
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> v-11 addresses comments during WGLC, the main changes include:
> >> 1. Remove all specific metrics from both terminology section and
> section 9.2 on IETF YANG Data Node Tags Registry based on WGLC discussion.
> >> 2. Align with Open Telemetry and Open Metrics open source
> implementation specification, introduce traces, log for data nodes
> classification.
> >> 3.Fix normative reference issues in section 9.2.
> >>
> >> -Qin
> >> -----邮件原件-----
> >> 发件人: I-D-Announce [mailto:[email protected]] 代表
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> >> 发送时间: 2023年10月21日 17:56
> >> 收件人: [email protected]
> >> 抄送: [email protected]
> >> 主题: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
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> >> Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt is now available. It
> is a work item of the Network Modeling (NETMOD) WG of the IETF.
> >>
> >>  Title:   Node Tags in YANG Modules
> >>  Authors:  Qin Wu
> >>           Benoit Claise
> >>           Mohamed Boucadair
> >>           Peng Liu
> >>           Zongpeng Du
> >>  Name:    draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11.txt
> >>  Pages:   30
> >>  Dates:   2023-10-21
> >>
> >> Abstract:
> >>
> >>  This document defines a method to tag nodes that are associated with
> >>  the operation and management data in YANG modules.  This method for
> >>  tagging YANG nodes is meant to be used for classifying either data
> >>  nodes or instances of data nodes from different YANG modules and
> >>  identifying their characteristic data.  Tags may be registered as
> >>  well as assigned during the definition of the module, assigned by
> >>  implementations, or dynamically defined and set by users.
> >>
> >>  This document also provides guidance to future YANG data model
> >>  writers; as such, this document updates RFC 8407.
> >>
> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags/
> >>
> >> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11
> >>
> >> A diff from the previous version is available at:
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> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-11
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> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
> >> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
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