Rob Wilton \(rwilton\) <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Yes, I support working on YANG v2, and this document and the underlying
    > github repository to back it are a good approach.

:-)

    > I do have concerns that the scope and goal of YANG v2 is not well
    > defined - I think that we, as a community, need to understand and agree
    > what the goal is of the next version of YANG and which of the 150+
    > proposed enhancements tracked by github we plan to fix and included in
    > YANG v2.  I don't think that an approach that just relies on individual
    > contributors working on the issues they have most interest in is the
    > best or right approach.

Wow.  156 Issues.  Wow.

    > To that end, I published a doc during the last IETF meeting
    > 
(https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-wilton-netmod-yang-next-agreement-00.html),

I would be happy to participate in a series of virtual interims to walk
through the list.   I like your four sets:  Yes/Maybe/Difficult/No ...

I suggest that before such a determination that individuals would need to
sort into "I understand", "I understand, but don't know why", "I am confused"
For 156 that's a lot of work.

    > A comparison could be drawn to XPath.  XPath v1, whilst it has some
    > flaws, is still a small language.  The subsequent versions of XPath are
    > all significantly larger languages, with presumably a much greater
    > implementation cost.  Care is required, I think, that YANG v2 doesn't
    > immediately follow this same path.

:-)
I agree.  Second system effect is real, but so is failing due to incrementalism.

    > This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for:
    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yn-netmod-yang2/

    > Please voice your support or technical objections to adoption on the
    > list by the end of the day (any time zone) May 11.

I haven't read it much yet, but -02's abstract says 1.1 allover :-)
I'm sure that can be fixed... Is the point that it's the 1.1 text without 
changes?

220 pages, and I think that I need to understand Rob's list before I can
think about this *process*:     I do not object to adoption, because I think
documents should be adopted early.

For me, by adopting, the WG would be saying:
1. we want to do Yang v2 in some form.
2. we think that Kent will be a good editor

Checking:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/diff?doc_1=draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-14&doc_2=draft-yn-netmod-yang2-02&iddiff=1
which does not include AUTH48 changes to RFC7950, so it looks like it intends
to be exactly 1.1 as a starting point.  I endorse adopting a -00 which is a
no-change, but I worry it might restrict our thinking.

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