On Tuesday 27 February 2007 14:01, Rogério Lira wrote: > Hi SiBa, > > Without any wish to defend or justify barebacking, I'd say that > labeling it as plain 'stupidity' seems simplistic, to say the least. > The issue is extremely complex for any promiscuous gay man (there are > several of us out there). In the past years the practice itself has > become so commonplace that most gay dating websites have redefined > the safer-sex options in their profile pages. In my experience, the > stress between hiv- and hiv+ gay men has increased a lot.
I perfectly know that, I'm a promiscuous gay man and I'm really interessed in porn so I well know all the big crazy diffusion of porn bareback in real life and in porn business. I never promoted bareback and never justify it. Doing bareback with a boyfriend (or with a well known std tested and well trusted partner) I think is ok but to spread std all around the gay community, talking about that like it is "culture" or "good" or "ok" or just a "personal decision" is not what I want to do. Bareback is a social problem. Barebacking and promoting bareback is something wrong, it spread a false sense of confort and a false feeling about std and hiv. > The proliferation of gay barebacking / cum fetish porn is alone a > obvious sign of the mass appeal of unprotected sex (for both > consumers and producers). In Amsterdam bareback DVDs grew out of the > extreme fetish 'corner' of porn shops and are now visible everywhere. > Several bareback-only porn labels (and porn stars) are now in > business. Sure, bb porn and cum fetish are a big sign of the mass appeal of unprotected sex but there is a big difference beetwen porn and real life. I think that doing a bareback porn movie is something questionable but it's ok if every model who do bb porn well know he may have big health problems and if this kind of advice are well underlined before or after the porn movie. Lots of porn producers decided to test models before shooting but I think it is just a false sense of confort because of hiv and other std are asymptomatic for long time and tests aren't 100% reliable. The problem is that this niche is not just seen by people who thought about that and have a conscious opinion about doing or not bareback. BB porn movies are seen by lots of people who never thought about that. This is the true problem about bb porn. Often bareback movies models are twinks, there is a big bareback production in the east of europe using guys under25, and they are the perfect model for young people who never thought about bb and didn't live in the '80 in the gay community and didn't live the "aids pestilence" age. > Disregarding the issue doesn't seem very wise (or safe, for that > matter), but it is still hard to make sense of this shift in how gay > men 'decide' to deal with hiv risk. I know of one study done in > Toronto that tried to establish some of the reasoning behind the > choice for unsafe gay sex. If I remember correctly, some of the > primary reasons mentioned by respondents were: negative mood states, > insemination fantasies, a deep craving for intimacy which overcomes > the fear of hiv infection and distrust in prevention campaigns which > seem insensitive and simplistic in recommending hyper-vigilance as > the only way to deal with hiv. I don't think it is just that. I talk often with young gay and bisex men and often they think that condom is unconfortable, that bb isn't so risky, that we know how to cure aids, that they do hiv test every year, that they "trust" random partner they fuck with because of they are "friends", that if somebody says he is hiv- there are no problems, that eating cum isn't so risky, that "it's just a little of precum in my ass but he shot on my tummy", ... And lots of hiv+ guys who do bb says that if the other guy didn't say anything and don't want to use condom is because he is hiv+ too... I read hiv+ guys writing that if they bb with other hiv+ guys this is not a problem, they doesn't know (or doesn't matter) that there are different kind of hiv and mixing isn't so good... It's not just negative mood state... Straight guys use condom just because of childrens, lots of guys I know do bareback sex if they know girls are on the pill. But I always thought that in the gay community the feeling have to be different, years and years of history and cultural evolution... > Here's a link to the article in PDF format: > > Adam, B.D., Sears, A., & Schellenberg, E.G. (2000). Accounting for > unsafe sex: Interviews with men who have sex with men. Journal of Sex > Research , 37, 24-36. > http://www.erin.utoronto.ca/~w3psygs/Adam.pdf Thanks for the link. I'll read it. > cheers > Rogerio _______________________________________________ Netporn Mailing List [email protected] list: http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/netporn-l_listcultures.org links: http://del.icio.us/netporn
