On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Franz Korntner wrote:

Thanks for your contribution -- comments below.

In the meantime I noticed that my contribution was incomplete as I missed out the riscos subdirectory. I work under linux and have no access to riscos running platform. The full patch netsurf-1.1a4.patch.gz is some odd 10000 lines and I have made a selection of interesting changes in netsurf-1.1a4.fixes.gz which might possibly be considered as bugfixes. [the a4 is my internal version number].

I currently don't have time to look at your patch (it'll probably be next week when I get time), but 10000 lines is most likely too big to evaluate in one go. Is there any possibility that you could break it up into more manageable chunks?

Finally I constructed autoconf/automake templates as I require certain functionality not delivered by the supplied makefile. I suggest you include these files so that package/distribution builders can choose which system to use.

Are you suggesting that the existing build system be replaced? If so, that's a non-starter as it's highly unlikely that autotools will ever work on RISC OS.

For the same reasons I suggest you include precompiled versions of lemon/re2c generated files.

Currently, these are available from http://netsurf.strcprstskrzkrk.co.uk/developer/ -- they're recreated automatically as needed. The CSS parser is due for a major overhaul at some point in the relatively near future. I currently have no idea whether this will have an impact on the use of lemon/re2c.

At the moment I'm analyzing the rendering coordinate system, the numeric operations on it, the mixed use of int's and floats, the knowledge that a FPU is absent, and the propagation of rounding errors. It gives interesting reading and I see possibilities to extremely minimize FP operations in the rendering engine in exchange for maximized accuracy.

This sounds good and I look forward to seeing the results of your efforts.

The current layout engine cannot cope with the document changing.
There's also no DOM support to speak of.  John Mark Bell has recently
been writing a new HTML parser and a DOM library that should hopefully
be complete with a few months.  That would make JavaScript somewhat
easier.

Good to know.
I have a good feeling that DOM functionality can easily be injected in the current HTML parser.

That depends; whilst libxml already produces a tree which is fairly close to the W3C DOM, its HTML parser is particularly non-robust to real-world web content. Additionally, its architecture is not suited to handling injection of data into the document source stream (as required by certain scripting methods -- namely document.write()).

I am looking for a small footprint package and get unnervy with the foresight of the introduction of a complete and/or standalone DOM component. This might make things easier.

I'm not sure I understand this. Are you saying that a standalone DOM component is a good thing or not? Note that a standalone HTML parser and core DOM implementation is likely to be smaller than a binary of libxml. Note that both the HTML parser and DOM implementation will be standalone libraries.

We've looked at several JavaScript libraries in the past.  The choices
are narrow when you have the requirements that it be linkable to C,
compilable on RISC OS, and have a GPL2-compatible licence.  Performance
is also an issue: Many users of NetSurf use it on machines with CPUs
less than 500MHz, and with no FPU.

Ok. i'll also take that into account. I'm leaning more towards seamonkey as it seems that it can be made lightweight.

The two libraries I currently favour are SpiderMonkey (which is what I think you meant, not SeaMonkey ;) and libsee. However, JavaScript work is someway down the line, so a decision on this hasn't happened yet.

Cheers,


John.

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