Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:31:34 +0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Encoding, QP and 8 bit Email
Now I don't usually quote the whole message just to tag a one line reply
at the bottom being bad nettiquette in usual circumstances but this rant
is just too good to trim. Scroll down to the bottom for my comments.
On 08 Mar 2001, Heimo Claasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your "rant", Philip. Thus dear Tom B. has fallen into the
> Window$ trap full speed too; the worse so - if one looks at the code -
> as it has been rotten *bad* HTML.
> This said; where is Nettamer with decoding HTML in mails ?
> (Using my own offline reader I have no practice with the READER.EXE's
> shortcomings any more.)
> I ask because there is one reasonable point to use either - very soberly
> and clean - HTML or MIME "Quoted Printable" in email: An overwhelming
> numbr of ISPs just shit on established standards (and RFCs) and destroy
> all mails containing 8-bit characters by illegally "autoconverting" to
> Win$hit charsets. This renders such mails in French, German or what-not
> (even Apple-Mac mailers in ASCII setting nevertheless pass some
> quotation marks in 8-bit) simply illegible.
> (This goes through the whole chain and it's really difficult to pinpoint
> the a precise SMTP, forwarder, or POP3 server causing the merde. But
> that's another story.)
> Work-around could be using QP or a *barest* HTML formatting which would
> consist just of the minimum of a <HTML><title></title><body> header and
> a <pre> tag, but then - and that's the point - using the HTML-defined
> char "entities" to code for all 8-bits.
> Contrary to MIME-QP (which re-translates encoded 8-bits to a "wrong"
> character set if the orignal was encoded in another char-set than the
> one you use), decoding of HTML-"entities" like "ä" for the small
> German Umlaut-a is done into the char-set installed on your machine (if
> set right in the HTML converter).
> HTML at least, is a "standard" which *does* pass unharmed the chain saw
> massacre of illegal server programming.
> Thus, what's needed then is a very basic (and definitely not M$hitty
> outcast) encoding of the *whole* mail body - for heavens sake no
> attachment creation - and a likewise straightforward decoding in the
> offline reader.
> Could be even a Nettamer plug-in by Tom ? (<g>)
Might I suggest UUENCODE? My mail reader, Pegasus Mail automatically
decodes UUENCODED messages.
Philip
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