very interesting. sorry, pedestrian question: how do "AI detectors" work? is
there anything you recommend I could read about this? thanks, Marcel
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 13:35:45 -0400
From: Keith Sanborn <[email protected]>
To: Brian Holmes via nettime-l <[email protected]>
Subject: <nettime> ai generated texts
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I checked this text by ?Rahul?.
According to Scribbr, it?s 86% AI generated.
Reliable sources are to be found in the legal texts on International
Humanitarian Law. Hamas, even if taken to be a non-state entity or part of a
non-state entity, is considered by all accepted criteria to be fully
accountable under International Humanitarian Law for its actions in terror
attacks (it is a listed terror organisation by the European Union and by the
USA) against Israeli civilians and using its own civilians (Arab Palestinians)
as human shields. Its leadership, commanders, and fighters are therefore
punishable for crimes against humanity and war crimes. The indiscriminate
firing of more than 3,300 rockets into Israel?s towns and villages violates the
rule of distinction in international humanitarian law, which requires
combatants to limit attacks to legitimate military targets, and there is the
difference about which you ask.
Other texts by ?Rahul? containing varying degrees of AI generated text.
Keith
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 20:05:36 +0200
From: Petter Ericson <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: <nettime> ai generated texts
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"AI detectors" are notoriously unreliable and often very biased against second
language speakers in particular.
/P
On 17 oktober, 2023 - Keith Sanborn via nettime-l wrote:
> I checked this text by ?Rahul?.
>
> According to Scribbr, it?s 86% AI generated.
>
> Reliable sources are to be found in the legal texts on International
> Humanitarian Law. Hamas, even if taken to be a non-state entity or part of a
> non-state entity, is considered by all accepted criteria to be fully
> accountable under International Humanitarian Law for its actions in terror
> attacks (it is a listed terror organisation by the European Union and by the
> USA) against Israeli civilians and using its own civilians (Arab
> Palestinians) as human shields. Its leadership, commanders, and fighters are
> therefore punishable for crimes against humanity and war crimes. The
> indiscriminate firing of more than 3,300 rockets into Israel?s towns and
> villages violates the rule of distinction in international humanitarian law,
> which requires combatants to limit attacks to legitimate military targets,
> and there is the difference about which you ask.
>
> Other texts by ?Rahul? containing varying degrees of AI generated text.
>
> Keith
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:33:41 -0400
From: Keith Sanborn <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: <nettime> ai generated texts
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There is nothing in this text which resembles the efforts of a second language
speaker.
> On Oct 17, 2023, at 2:06 PM, Petter Ericson via nettime-l
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ?"AI detectors" are notoriously unreliable and often very biased against
> second
> language speakers in particular.
>
> /P
>
>> On 17 oktober, 2023 - Keith Sanborn via nettime-l wrote:
>>
>> I checked this text by ?Rahul?.
>>
>> According to Scribbr, it?s 86% AI generated.
>>
>> Reliable sources are to be found in the legal texts on International
>> Humanitarian Law. Hamas, even if taken to be a non-state entity or part of a
>> non-state entity, is considered by all accepted criteria to be fully
>> accountable under International Humanitarian Law for its actions in terror
>> attacks (it is a listed terror organisation by the European Union and by the
>> USA) against Israeli civilians and using its own civilians (Arab
>> Palestinians) as human shields. Its leadership, commanders, and fighters are
>> therefore punishable for crimes against humanity and war crimes. The
>> indiscriminate firing of more than 3,300 rockets into Israel?s towns and
>> villages violates the rule of distinction in international humanitarian law,
>> which requires combatants to limit attacks to legitimate military targets,
>> and there is the difference about which you ask.
>>
>> Other texts by ?Rahul? containing varying degrees of AI generated text.
>>
>> Keith
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