On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 at 10:47:49PM +1100, paul van der walt via nettime-l wrote:
> The way i understand it, Ted is remarking that in our situation, (some number 
> of) people are participating in a discussion on a mailing list, and some 
> (many more, by definition almost, given the subscriber count) are lurking / 
> listening / thinking their thoughts / sending everything to spam, but not 
> replying in public to the postings.  He's saying that the gesture of 
> labelling this phenomenon as an (my words) "active / deliberate silence" is 
> firstly a specific framing (one of many, as he argues), and secondly a 
> nostalgic one, in that it stands in comparison to collective manifestations 
> out in the streets, with people shouting, as an example (among many).  I 
> think the claim is that instead of choosing this one framing, of labelling 
> this state of affairs as "silence", we are invited to reflect on how else to 
> respond to our contemporary context.
> 
> Apologies Ted if i'm flat-footing your (eloquent, IMHO) framing and argument.
> 
> For what it's worth i can see where Ted is coming from, and to me it does 
> make sense.  I'll remain neutral on the substance of it as well as the 
> implications that has for our various (potentially deontological) roles in 
> discourse.

I would say that the reason for the silence is much more quotidian than that.  
The choice to be silent or not is really only a fair choice for those of us 
with the privilege to respond at close to zero marginal cost.

For the less privileged among us who have day jobs or similarly taxing 
responsibilities that require a time commitment, the time needed to formulate a 
thoughtful response constitutes a prohibitive cost.  For such persons, the 
choice is between responding with a superficial message and not responding at 
all.  From this perspective, the fact that there is not a flood of superficial 
messages is a sign of respect for the community and the value it places on 
thoughtful consideration.

However, although this might explain the silence in communities such as 
nettime, I am not sure that this explains the silence in the world at large.  
Perhaps there really is a dearth of privileged people who are unwilling to 
speak out against a system that has benefited them, a frightening thought 
indeed.

Best wishes --

Geoff

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