Hey David, Thank you for writing this summary. I would've loved to be able to attend & participate.
I won't take on the burden to respond to everything, because otherwise i'll procrastinate more, and it's such a shame when a thoughtful message such as yours goes unanswered. On 2024-02-15 at 17:39 -07, quoth David Garcia via nettime-l <[email protected]>: > 1. The idea of Nettime Listening Post (NLP) is to begin re-visiting > ‘real-life’ gatherings as a way of re-vitalising the list. Excellent! I hope we see more of that. For what it's worth, a few weeks ago Jan, Colin, Seán and i met up in Melbourne and had a grand time chatting about things. We should do it again sometime. Those real-life connections are important indeed. > 4. It was reassuring that as well as men “of a certain age” there were a > clearly active bunch of lurkers some of them quite young and all of whom were > well versed in classic nettime tropes and questions, but who only very > occasionally intervened on the list. Fortunately, this gathering was not all > male or all white. Good to hear! Welcome one and all 🙏 > 5. Its surprising just how many people present declared themselves too > intimidated to join the on-line discussions but were articulate and > insightful in the meeting. That's a shame, but i can understand the dynamic. I don't have better suggestions at this time than to say: feel welcome to post your thoughts, musings, etc. The other mods and i intend to uphold a civil standard of communications, and well, here i am saying things, i have no special qualifications to do so! It can feel intimidating for sure, but we will all be enriched by hearing more/different voices! > One important proposal was to invite and support a number of guest editors > from different demographics who might introduce new threads and different > voices. An excellent idea. > 6. the old boys [...] might be quietly shuffled off to some nettime > equivalent of ‘sheltered accommodation’. Haha! I'm all about lawn bowls in the sun, sign me up! Although i likely haven't earned my spot aboard that particular bus by a long shot yet 😁 > 10. Speaking of ‘Tactical Archives’ we were keen to discuss how better use > could be made of the extensive and rich nettime archive. And in that regard > we were joined on-line by Michael Dieter, Mark Tuters and David Gauthier all > three researchers had written a significant journal article on the importance > of mailing lists based on dialogues with list editors at the time including > Melinda Rackham for empyre and Andreas Broeckmann for Spectre... Their > declared aim is “to both introduce these lists to the emerging field of > internet history and scope out medium-specific methods that take the measure > of concepts, discourses, cohorts, and events that have taken place through > them over time.“ (quote from the abstract) That's of particular interest to me. I'd be interested to learn more about what experts could/would do with such rich and longitudinal archives indeed. If nothing else my personal commitment as long as i am involved here is to ensure safekeeping of the existing archives as they are (both raw and processed to HTML for presentation). This reminds me that i should follow up with Ted about gathering some supplementary files from 2001... But yes, keen to think about new/engaging ways of presenting the historical threads. I don't doubt that there could be a lot of cool things one could do to present them or draw insights, make them navigable, etc.! All the best, p. -- # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: https://www.nettime.org # contact: [email protected]
