That's a good analysis Dan,

I agree that Chinese society needed, in some way, to recuperate after a crazy 
period of upheaval? but to be lasting, political solutions need to be 
participatory and open.  Any "harmony" enforced with bayonets and tanks, i.e. 
in Tibet, Kashmir, and Xinjiang, should hardly be called such.

And far from being originally Chinese, it's the kind of language any tinpot 
dictator would use.  The U.S. State Department has always used the word 
"stability" as code for "supporting our power and privilege."

Our own Conservative government, once the very best of red-baiters, have 
stifled their anti-commie wing in order to grow trade with China.  Now it's 
about "opening up" instead of "putting pressure."  This kind of stabilizing / 
harmonizing alliance between so-called democracies (there is growing evidence 
our CPC - that's the Conservative Party of Canada - stole the election) and 
so-called communists puts the lie to your and Li's notion of separate systems.  
Is Sinopec a western-style corporation or a chinese-style policy instrument?

These alliances will only exacerbate the problems of pollution and discontent 
that you described very well.  What Li calls "the wealth gap" is actually the 
creation (invasion?) of new social classes that will fundamentally re-shape 
power relations in China, and this will happen behind a dark curtain of 
corruption and tyranny.
 
A major problem for me in your response, though, is that "their stated goals" 
is not how I want to evaluate ruling systems. 
 
For instance, would we judge the Nazi regime by their stated goal of a 
thousand-year racially-pure German Reich?  I guess we could judge them a 
failure, anyway, since they ended up many steps back when it all wrapped up, 
but it's wrong-headed to go there.

To judge America by their stated goals, I admit, is a little more interesting - 
"one nation, under god, with liberty and justice for all."  Are these good 
goals?  Are they being achieved?  Keep in mind, anyone may chime in on the 
discussion, unlike in China.

But without any kind of free speech or public participation outside the CPC 
superstructure, we have no idea of the goals and aspirations of the Chinese 
people, either as individuals or groups.  We know that when they are expressed 
in little pockets, the state machinery clamps down.

We could, of course, get into the debate as to whether democracy, feminism, 
human rights, etc, are invasive "western" concepts or if that is just a 
rhetorical stick to beat down domestic resistance?



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