Flick,

You're absolutely correct - I'm seeing this too with dismay. A good example of 
this kneekjerk behavior is the excellent "capitalist" (mostly anticapitalist, 
though that varies between its two main writers/owners, one of whom works in 
finance capital) news site Naked Capitalism. For the last X years its been my 
go-to with my morning coffee and I've donated as much as I could along with 
other activist organizations. Recently, perhaps so disappointed with the HRC 
scorched earth campaign against Bernie and real reform of the Dem party, 
they've gone what I would charitably describe as rogue. Both the authors and 
the daily dump of links that previously proved invaluable have become grounds 
for essentially whole-HRC hate and barely and realization of the enormity of 
the DT annihalation machine that will descend shortly. The same site that used 
to break down Obama's doublespeak through mealymouthed speeches now takes to 
giving DT the benefit of the doubt because "Hillary has done what she pr
 omised not to, whereas he has yet to be proven." Inexplicably, they do this 
even now, after the miserable violent, anti-women, anti-black, anti-muslim 
cabinet has been chosen.  Not to mention that whereas the authors are as 
usually impeccably smart, the commenters could be lifted from /r/the_donald...

I differ with you, Flick, in that the I don't think the "brocialist" left 
online is part of this. From what I see from that "dirty left" scene (which 
perhaps in another email we can argue if it exists or was a fiction of the 
David Brock center) such as Jacobin, Chapo Trap House, a lot of the BLM 
organizations, etc, the people there are terrified and disgusted and all the 
rest by DT and vow to fight him to the end - WHILE acknowledging that HRC was 
an utter nightmare for any progressive/left action in this country (and her 
friends in the Acela Corridor, from Obama to Schumer to Cuomo, continue to do 
this disgusting work both through local politics and nationally, eg against 
Keith Ellison). Many of these people are involved in daily struggles in NYC, 
for example (I am), where we see how "progressive" de Blasio sics his NYPD on 
anyone not toeing the shiny happy real estate developer NYC he's pimping.  We 
know HRC was bad... and we know when DT gets ahold of LEO (culturally and 
legally) 
 in this country, it will be hell on anyone moral and decent left. Maybe the 
HRC-haters don't have to confront this daily, and don't think about this?

TLDR: I'm shocked by how much formerly straitlaced groups have given DT the 
benefit of the doubt and been charitable to him while pouring hate on the HRC 
folks. Why not both, as Zoidberg says?

Frank



----- Original message -----
From: Flick Harrison <[email protected]>
To: Nettime <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <nettime> The Guardian's Summary of Julian Assange's Interview 
Went Viral and
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:01:04 -0800

This is really important. 
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