-- Frederic Neyrat wrote:

"The important point for me is to affirm that Strategy T is not democratic.
The goal is to find a way to suspend democracy/civil rights/freedom/next
elections etc. Whatever the means. War, "terrorist" attack, financial
crisis, etc."

--> I think the hypothetical "Strategy T" exists for the President as a
kind of inchoate drift toward the very real potential of armed rising by
the far right. There are small militias all over the country, there are
radical libertarian groups who want to decisively change the social order,
and there are lots of armed nut jobs waiting for an excuse to get fighting
mad. Hans Herman Hoppe and other liberatarian Occidentalists describe their
strategy quite explicitly: wait for those dependent on the largesse of the
state to take to the streets to reclaim their vanishing benefits, and then
in the face of rising violence, provide security to the middle class and
affluent population by means of self-designated or locally deputized
vigilantes. Given the systematic neglect of far-right violence by Homeland
Security, as well as what seems to be the deliberate infiltration of police
forces by the same extremist groups, that is a real scenario for the
suspension of civil liberties. But what's happening now is not some
barbarous explosion of the ghettos, from which vigilantees could somehow
protect law-abiding citizens. Instead it's the unprovoked upsurge of
fascist and white supremacist forces whose ideology is so despicable that
no one in power except Trump himself appears able to condone or
instrumentalize it.

I'd say the dangerous passage is not over. As Trump's presidency fails, the
two last-ditch cards he can more or less instinctively try to play are 1.
go to war and 2. foment civil unrest, with the hope in both cases of
finding a reason for authoritarianism. He's trying option 1 already, and
watch out for option 2 coming up soon, perhaps with the support of
false-flag operations or other forms of calculated violence from the far
right. Yet it already looks as though these strategies will fail, because
they have not gained any visible traction within the state, in addition to
being completely unviable at the urban level (no mayor of a large urban
area in the US, however segregated it may actually be, is going to promote
overt racism). To wrap it up, we really could see some chaos in the US or
the upcoming months (or even weeks). But Trump has already lost the
political power to turn that into something bigger. In my view, his
disgrace presents a real opportunity to go beyond the
repetition-compulsions of postwar US empire, toward a fresh assessment of
present realities. But it's only an opportunity, and it will take a lot of
forthright and far-seeing people to make good on it.

-- Keith Hart wrote:

"Market fundamentalism is at the crossroads. We are entering a global
paradigm shift comparable to that of 1979/80, when a world revolution led
by development states after 1945 was overthrown by a neoliberal
counter-revolution that is itself now under threat... Responses to Trump’s
reactionary white supremacy, along with the surprising French and British
elections, suggest that neoliberal hegemony may be cracking and a swing
back to state intervention, whether fascist or Keynesian, is now more
likely than at any time in the last four decades."

-- And David Garcia countered:

"We must be wary of seeing 'public ownership' as an unalloyed -good-. State
(or public) entites can  quite easily become self reproducing interest
groups, lobbying on behalf of themselves as effectively as any corporation.
Anyone who has had to deal regularly with public institutions will know
that they do not always serve the best interests of the public."

--> I think it's crystal clear that the neoliberalism of the 1990s
"Washington Consensus" (or Tom Friedman's "The Lexus and the Olive Tree")
is over. That was clear financially with the meltdown of 2008,
geopolitically with the Arab Spring, and sociopolitically with Brexit and
Trump's election. What's unclear is how to replace it.

The resolution of a major crisis needs a multi-pronged strategy that can be
worked out technically by the specialists even as it is internalized as a
new common sense by the citizens. For the specialists, I would recommend
Jeremy Rifkin's recent books. He is practically the only one who is
proposing a coherent new social model, and he has real influence on tho the
EU and China so it is quite serious (I was totally wrong to criticize him
once on nettime, as I subsequently discovered by actually reading his work
in depth). As for the common-sense version, it could go like this:

- We need a concept of employment-creating economic growth that is not
based on the trickle-down from surplus financial profits, or on the
conquest of export markets at others' expense, but rather on the
productivity of citizens, regardless of their levels of education or their
inherited social and money capital.

- We need a concept of security that is not focused on violent responses to
violent events, but rather on the accumulating threats of infrastructural
decay, institutional decline, financial uncertainty and environmental
damage which plague people in their daily lives.

- We need a concept of democracy that is not limited to spectacular
elections but instead recognizes multiple forms of citizen involvement,
oversight and critique, and makes all of those inputs productive of social
change.

- We need a concept of pleasure that does not turn an envious gaze toward
the exploits of those at the top of the pyramid, but instead allows
everyone to enjoy the fruits of their labor, the amenities of their locale
and the sociability of their neighbors.

I agree simultaneously with Keith's assertion of the new statist turn and
David's caution against it. The problem is how to do better than
neoliberalism. The doctrinaire left just treats it as anathema, without
recognizing how many of the good ideas of the Sixties and Seventies were
folded into it. One of those good ideas is a healthy suspicion of state
bureaucracy. "Healthy suspicion" is not the same as "drowning in a
bathtub."  The fundamental societal challenge of the present is how to
integrate the chaotic forces of directly democratic communication and
competitively individualistic entrepreneurialism, which were both unleashed
by the arrival of networked technologies. The current age of Twitter-wars
is not succeeding.

But we really can do better, Brian
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