Hi, I found this text interesting: " The future of the EU at stake in Catalonia " http://www.atimes.com/article/future-eu-stake-catalonia/
Quote (amongst other interesting things): " The Catalan government beat the fascist goons with two very simple codes – as revealed by La Vanguardia. “I’ve got the Tupperware. Where do we meet?” was the code on a prepaid mobile phone for people to collect and protect ballot boxes. “I’m the paper traveler” was the code to protect the actual paper ballots. Julian Assange/WikiLeaks had warned about the world’s first Internet war as deployed by Madrid to smash the electronic voting system. The counterpunch was – literally – on paper. The US National Security Agency must have learned a few lessons. " Best, Frédéric Neyrat 2017-10-03 14:40 GMT-07:00 Ian Alan Paul <[email protected]>: > The radical Left in Barcelona is conflicted. People oppose independence > simply because it has the tendency to subsume all other political > antagonisms (see the very strange left/right coalition currently in power > in Catalonia). At the same time, there is general agreement about the right > to self-determination which is historically very strong in the region, and > Rajoy sending in his thugs to repress the referendum certainly has done > nothing but bolster the sentiment. This of course is magnified by the > well-remembered history of Francoist repression in the region. > > Rajoy's play is the divide the Spanish Left over the question of > independence (particularly Podemos), while Catalan Independentists hope for > intervention/sanctions from the EU/UN. > > The real history, of course, remains to be settled on the streets. The > general strike which is currently unfolding can turn and reroute the > present conjuncture in any which way, and no one, even Rajoy, seems to be > sure where this is all headed. Let's be attentive and ready to act in > solidarity with all of those on the streets when calls to do so inevitably > arise. > > ~i > > _____________________________________ > > *“**What can I do?* > *One must begin somewhere.* > *Begin what?* > *The only thing in the world worth beginning:* > > *The End of the world of course.”* > > * -Aimé Césaire* > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Felix Stalder <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think this is much more than identity politics, beyond the point that >> all politics that aim at a certain broad, popular support, are also >> about identity. That is, they need to address the questions of who are >> "we" and what directions should "our" collective efforts should take. >> >> Several outcomes are possible. Catalan independence (irrespective of >> whether this "nation" will also gets is own "state") could either point >> beyond the nation state, helping to imagine the new Europe of Regions, >> as Ulrike Guérot does not tired to advocate, or it could turn into just >> another enclave protecting its supposedly homogeneous identity. >> >> There is always a danger of the latter outcome (which, to a certain >> degree is what happened to Quebec nationalism in the 1990s), but it's >> not preordained. >> >> What's the sense of nettimers in Barcelona? If this an opening, or a >> closure? >> >> Felix >> >> >> >> >> On 2017-10-03 08:00, Morlock Elloi wrote: >> > Isn't this equivalent of identity politics, at the province level? >> > >> > Bunch of cute and original provinces, with unique histories, salamis, >> > Gaudis and animosities, feeling so good being themselves, expressing >> > their little unique patriotic feelings, and, while doing all that, being >> > insignificant minions and subordinates, even bitches, of the powers that >> > have no slightest intention of disintegrating into cute communes, and >> > failing to join forces (or what's left of them) with other cute >> > mistresses of the powers that be? >> > >> > Isn't it funny that the same entities that support identity politics >> > support all these little independencies? >> > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission >> > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, >> > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets >> > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l >> > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] >> > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: >> > >> >> -- >> >> ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| http://felix.openflows.com >> |OPEN PGP: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=0x0C9FF2AC >> >> >> # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission >> # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, >> # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets >> # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l >> # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] >> # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: >> > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: >
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