Thanks so much Brian,

Very relevant critique. Without wanting to get stuck on a term, I was using the 
word ‘field’ partly because there is a field of practice that refers to itself 
as ArtScience (with a growing number of initiatives, organisations, museums 
even), towards which I wanted to take a position / open it up for scrutiny and 
discussion. Also, this text is written from within the program in The Hague to 
stimulate critical debate there, and is possibly a bit too much written from an 
‘internal’ perspective, which is why it is good to post it here and get 
responses from outside that inner-circle.

More important is your call for a triad of art, science, and politics. I fully 
agree that this would be much stronger and it would really be something to 
develop a strong research and practice context where these three come together 
- as you write so articulately: "Science makes the invisible visible. Art makes 
the visible meaningful. Politics makes the meaningful actionable.” That’s 
exceptionally well put.

The political is, of course, there throughout the text, though mostly implicit. 
Most overtly in the link up with Latour’s politics of nature and his more 
recent reflections on the Anthropocene (a by now somewhat over-used term, but 
still) - facing Gaia. There’s also an overabundance of ‘institutional critique’ 
implicit within the text (towards both the arts and the sciences). Still, it 
would make a lot of sense to be able to bring this out much more explicitly and 
indeed turn the political here into a fully fledged third constitutive element 
of a new intersectional practice.

The urgency of taking on such a ‘three-field formation’ is abundantly clear, 
and it would be a super challenging thing to do. Such an initiative should 
consist of both research (theory) and practice. The question would be where you 
would find support (institutional or otherwise) to develop a viable structure 
for that?

Not an institution, but rather a ‘program’ of sorts, more directly geared 
towards actionable interventions, combining research, theory, and artistic / 
design practices - nothing ephemeral, but something much more ‘grounded’. This 
is something I want to seriously think about - it was somehow already there 
when I was writing this text, but you pushed it just a step further - very 
inspiring!

Last comment, more from my personal perspective: In the 12 years I was 
developing projects at De Balie in Amsterdam, our main purpose was to link 
culture and politics - at least that is what I always saw as the main raison 
d’être of the place. At the time the evolving practices of new media culture, 
network culture, digital culture, whatever you call it, provided a vibrant 
context to make such linkages (thinking of tactical media, the new 
internet-driven transnational arts and culture networks, the (still) on-going 
info-politics debates, net.criticism and so on). Currently, at the ArtScience 
Interfaculty, the program is exploring intersections of art and science as 
emergent supra-disciplinary practices.

Now, what if we can fuse these two approaches? - an forever emergent set of 
intersectional practices that cut through the arts, the sciences, and politics, 
where these practices constitute themselves anew every time they create a 
specific intersection between these ‘fields’. That’s what I mean with ‘forever 
in becoming’ - such an intersectional (transversal?) practice can never fix 
itself in static definitions or rigid structures, but it does require a viable 
structure, a strong basis from which to act, to avoid complete marginalisation 
- how to do this?

Now there’s something to think about!

All my bests for now,
Eric

> On 8 Dec 2017, at 18:57, Brian Holmes <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Eric, I totally appreciate and admire your interest in all this, but with due 
> respect I think making ArtScience into a "field" is an archaic 
> twentieth-century delaying tactic, from the days when liberal society could 
> believe itself eternal. Reading this morning about California's winter fires, 
> it seems that much greater things than an academic field could "overheat" and 
> "melt down."
> 
> And California is just an anecdote: housing troubles of the excessively rich. 
> The Syrian drought, the Russian wildfires of 2010, the South Asian floods of 
> 2017 spring vividly to mind. These are something radically new: harbingers of 
> the present.
> 
> Why can't deal with what's all around us?
> 
> Science makes the invisible visible. Art makes the visible meaningful. 
> Politics makes the meaningful actionable. Each of these activities is 
> separate, resting on its own base, delivering what it can. Under present 
> circumstances, each "field" (if you want to call it that) needs the other. 
> Alone or even in pairs, they can make no difference.
> 
> Similarly, the notion of "fundamental research," outside applications and 
> consequences, has become fallacious. For example, I believe fundamental 
> research into the constitution of twenty-first century authoritarian racist 
> capitalism is now going on in the US White House and in the vast 
> actor-network of which it is a part. This is highly consequential research 
> into the denial of the present.
> 
> The three-field formation of Science-Art-Politics would be much stronger than 
> authoritarianism: more robust, more dynamic, able to integrate vital energies 
> for transformative work in the present. Why not make a vast social movement 
> for urgent times, instead of another specialized niche for all eternity?
> 
> thanks for your reflections,
> 
> Brian
> 
> PS - As the below shows, you yourself are arguing, not for a fusion, but for 
> two "complementary" disciplines. Why not add the third essential one? Because 
> the window of opprtunity is short: in ten years, if nothing changes, 
> "politics" will be replaced by "the military" as the necessary partner in any 
> transformative process.
> 
>> 4) Closing the experiential gap between rigorous scientific enquiry and 
>> subjective appraisal
>> Through the reconciliation of scientific method and subjective experience 
>> ArtScience can contribute to efforts to close the experiential gap between 
>> the abstractions of scientific enquiry and the experience of everyday life. 
>> ArtScience can do for science what art does so well for itself: turn 
>> abstract ideas into lived experiences. Here we see the unique intersection 
>> at work of two methodological universes considered to be ‘incommensurable’ 
>> [7], where in fact they are complementary and mutually reinforcing modes of 
>> understanding and experience.
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