On 12/17/2017 06:31 PM, Kein wrote:
Hi Brian! Well I was slightly kidding but more seriously: History suggests it's 
not a one way street from direct to symbolic action, the traffic can flow both 
ways.
Ben

Yeah, that's what I think. Making it flow is pretty important though. Grenoble used to be good at that, I don't know these days...

Brian


On 12/17/2017 10:50 AM, Kein wrote:
Quick pt: It's not 'symbolic' if you burn enough infrastructure.

Right, then you can kick off a massive military/fascist reaction which isn't 
symbolic either!

Direct action either becomes symbolic, allowing for politics, or it becomes a 
fight, allowing the stronger force to win. Just a few groups of determined 
fire-wielding saboteurs would be highly effective in building the police state 
of which they secretly dream...
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