just a footnote:

This book just came out. Marx and Russia: The Fate of a Doctrine. It is
also about Gramsci's contribution, at least about the roots of his theory
of ideology, consciousness, and cultural revolution. The book fills the
most important crack in near history:
https://www.amazon.com/Marx-Russia-Doctrine-Bloomsbury-History/dp/1474224067

best

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 12:53, ari <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I never got this argument.
>  Gramsci was an open Marxist, thus open to the abuse of all the closed
>  Marxists around. He kept his ear to the ground and during the rise of
>  Fascism, he was quite isolated and marginalised by his contemporary
>  closed Marxists because, amongst other things, he was trying to
>  seriously understand the phenomenon without jumping to facile
>  conclusions about the working class and its true destiny or false
>  consciousness. He could see well that there was no true destiny: the
>  revolution didn't happen, or rather, a revolution was happening, but not
>  of the sort Marxists like him wished for. And all their careful work of
>  political agitation was ultimately serving the wrong causes. But
>  analytically, Gramsci was in agreement with Lenin that all you have is
>  class formations. Nothing is static or prefigured. Everything
>  historical. This earned him enemies from both sides, but the genuine
>  sensitivity to changing subjects around him also earned him followers on
>  the ground. There is no notion of hegemony, in Gramsci, that isn't
>  rooted in class.
>  Jump from the 1930s to the 1980s and you have the Laclau and Mouffe
>  travesty. The pair put forward their celebration of identity politics on
>  the back of this open Marxist. What I am reading wherever I see this
>  evisceration of Gramsci's notion of hegemony is really a commentary on
>  Laclau and Mouffe. I can join critics of Laclau and Mouffe anytime. They
>  were useless to Marxism and quite pernicious influences on the new left,
>  precisely for allowing all considerations on the political economy of
>  class formation to fall out of view and interest. But when I see their
>  ugly painting of Gramsci as a post-class cultural theorists I must
>  object. There is no such thing.
>
>
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: Quick Review.. (Florian Cramer)
> >    2. Re: Quick Review.. (David Garcia)
> >
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:58:33 +0200
> > From: Florian Cramer <[email protected]>
> > To: Brian Holmes <[email protected]>
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> > Thanks, David - as I said in the discussion in Berlin, Stewart and I
> > ended
> > up
> > in a weird place where we practically taught the "Alt-Right" its own
> > history.
> > One shouldn't read too much into its grasp of Gramsci though. This is
> > what
> > Milo
> > Yiannopolous wrote about him in the original manuscript of his book
> > 'Dangerous' (that Simon & Schuster ended up not publishing):
> >
> > And so, in the 1920s, the Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci decided
> > that the
> > time had come for a new form of revolution -- one based on culture,
> > not
> > class. According to Gramsci, the reason why the proletariat had
> > failed to
> > rise up was because old, conservative ideas like loyalty to one's
> > country,
> > family values, and religion held too much sway in working-class
> > communities.
> > If that sounds familiar to Obama's comment about guns and religion,
> > that's
> > because it should. His line of thinking, as we shall see, is directly
> > descended from the ideological tradition of Gramsci. Gramsci argued
> > that as
> > a
> > precursor to revolution, the old traditions of the west -- or the
> > 'cultural
> > hegemony,' as he called it -- would have to be systematically broken
> > down.
> > To
> > do so, Gramsci argued that "proletarian" intellectuals should seek to
> > challenge the dominance of traditionalism in education and the media,
> > and
> > create a new revolutionary culture. Gramsci's ideas would prove
> > phenomenally
> > influential. If you've ever wondered why forced to take diversity or
> > gender
> > studies courses at university, or why your professors all seem to
> > hate
> > western civilization ... Well ' ..new you knew who to blame Gramsci.
> >
> > (Because of the lawsuit, the manuscript is publicly available here:
> >
> >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjc0n5dll244o2w/Milo%20Y%20book%20with%20edits.pdf?dl=0
> > )
> > -F
> > --
> >
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