Hi Alice Sparkly Kat, I totally agree with you and see that my little text squib missed the important stuff.
thanks for the very detailed and timely correction.. David On 1 Oct 2019, at 14:50, Alice Sparkly Kat <[email protected]> wrote: > call in culture isn't meant to replace call out culture. call in culture is > for members of your community who you already trust to exercise > accountability. it's for talking through power structures within a group of > people who already have committed relationships to one another. for example, > if someone within a group of women voices an opinion that's misogynist, > someone might take her aside and call her in, asking her to understand why > her internalized views might be harmful to others and herself. if it's the > same group of women but a cis woman says something transmisogynist, you can't > call her in privately without betraying the trust of the trans members of the > group. > > call out culture is for those with active and oppressive power over you. > racism and sexism are public institutions and addressing them as private > dramas within individual relationships will not work. when someone is > reinforcing the racial privilege they already have, upholding sexism, being > transmisogynist, the right tactic isn't to pull the oppressor aside > privately. to do so is DANGEROUS and puts all of the vulnerability and danger > in the person of the oppressed group. if someone has been acting really shady > sexually, abusing their power etc, for example, they need to be called out > publicly. it's not up to someone who was subjected to harassment to pull that > person aside, talk to them privately to protect their reputation, while > actively putting their body at risk. to think that call in culture is more > compassionate than call out culture relies on assuming the goodwill of the > oppressor (that they didn't mean to assault someone, they were just playing > around) and the malevolence of the complainer (that they're petty or jealous > and trying to take someone's career away out of spite). > > call out culture and call in culture are meant to exist side by side. call in > culture isn't supposed to replace call out culture or be a better > alternative.most of the time, when you try to "call in" a white person they > get fragile really quickly. if they are your boss, you will suffer economic > consequences. if they're part of your friend group, you suffer being > ostracized. call out culture makes the issue known because oppression is > something that every member of your group must have some accountability over. > oppression isn't private business between individuals. > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 7:14 AM David Garcia > <[email protected]> wrote: > In a wokshop I attended the other day on the growing prevalence of the > polerisation or hyperpartzan nature of public > discourse a guy who self identified as gay spoke up and described how since > the Brexit vote he was aware of an increased > hostility. But, certainly in the context of the workshop he was working on > the basis of “good faith” which meant that although > vigilance about our language and attitudes need to remain in place we might > also be cautious about “calling out” as > in public deniciation of what might be inadvertent infringements of > progressive norms. Instead he advocated what he > called “call in culture”. In which when something is said that we find > offensive or simply wrong we might have a policy of > replacing the public call out with taking the individual to one side and > letting them know how we feel.. I think this goes on > anyway but giving it a name, “call in” seemed useful. > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [email protected] > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: > > > -- > website | IG | twitter
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