Some played the poietic generator over zoom. No need to say anything. No need eiteh for zoom actually. http://poietic-generator.net/?p=1026
Olivier Auber On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 3:00 PM Patrice Riemens <patr...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > Ola Ola > > On 2020-07-03 11:27, Geert Lovink wrote: > > Dear nettimers, > > > > I suppose many of you who’re into teaching have had an intense and > > exhausting period of giving online classes. > > > > I am trying to gather experiences of what’s now called ‘Zoom > > fatigue’. Of course this is by no means limited to Zoom and extends > > to Microsofts Teams and Skype, Google Classrooms etc. The experience > > also shows up in the cultural sector, in businesses and in the busy > > everyday or freelancers that have to speak to clients. We all made > > long hours. > > > > My question is a strategic one. Should we, in the near future, refuse > > to give online classes and have management meetings like this? The IT > > management class is already promoting the ‘blended’ model, > > expecting a backlash of the excessive video conferencing hours of the > > past months. > > > > Do you want to send me (or post here) some sentences or paragraph how, > > exactly, you experienced the move to video conferencing and the > > fatigue? > > > > Is there something wrong with the user interface? Is the ‘live’ > > aspect important or should we rather return to pre-produced videos? As > > you all know, the relation (or tension) between ‘streaming’ and > > ‘online video’ is an old one. > > Well, on that one, methink Giorgio Agamben (him again!) had the > definitive answer: > > > https://eutopiainstitute.org/2020/05/requiem-for-the-students-giorgio-agamben/ > > (there are more sites carrying the same translantion by Alan Dean, I > choose the one with the nicest pic) > > > Some of us also made remarkably positive experiences. When the people, > > the content and context is right, an online conference that matters > > turned out really interesting. There are so many things to discuss, > > new connections to be made, hearing from those who have been excluded > > from the dialogues and discourses so far. The ‘stack of crises’ > > may be distressing but the resistance, worldwide, also grows. Under > > what circumstances it is desirable to come together like this? > > > > This much is clear. We need to gather and organize, mobilize. How > > should ‘our’ Zoom look like? One that is inspiring, very likely > > limited in time, more focussed dialogues, perhaps even voting, > > facilitating both consensus AND debate? > > > > Is there a top limit to the use of video as community tool? > > > > Best, Geert > > > > ps. Here at the Institute of Network Cultures we made some experiences > > ourselves with the MoneyLab #8 event, organized by Aksioma in > > Ljubljana, originally scheduled for late March 2020, that was quickly > > turned into an 8 part lecture series: > > https://vimeo.com/networkcultures. > > Let's be frank here: there were interesting talks/interventions, but in > term of outreach/public impact/participation, it was an unmitigated > disaster. Beter then to revert to purely literary text exchanges - like > nettime. > > Cheers to all, and take care: The Winter is Coming. > p+7D! > > > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
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