Well said all, good thread.
Hank

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 9:14 PM Brian Holmes <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Allan,
>
> You are right about the imprint which slavery has left on the United
> States, that has been the single most important national discussion over
> the last year and there is always more to understand about it - especially
> the specific histories of particular places, histories that people who live
> in those places would rather not know about. It is vitally important to
> tell these true tales - for instance, the story of the KKK sheriff of
> Hennepin county. The slave patrols of the old Southern planters are at the
> origin of today's police, and that is a US history, the ugliest and most
> damaging one. Whoever ignores it is complicit in the devastating
> recrudescence of an ideology that has never died, but only bided its time,
> awaiting fresh opportunities.
>
> But I suggested that these histories are not so specific to the US,
> because of life experience.
>
> I lived in France for 20 years and like most French people, I believed the
> myth of equality. Although I was well aware of racism in the US, I did not
> notice that despite all the grand principles, the French police
> consistently arrested, beat, imprisoned and killed people of African origin
> at the slightest pretext. That state of willful ignorance held tight until
> the so-called "revolte des banlieues" in 2005, which I read about in the
> papers while visiting Chicago, then experienced first hand when I returned
> home to France. I went out to demonstrate one afternoon in solidarity with
> the banlieues - but almost no one came to that demo, especially not the
> institutional left, whose keywords are equality and solidarity. In fact,
> France is absolutely as racist as the US, and this is becoming increasingly
> clear to younger people in that country over the course of the last year or
> so. Despite that rising awareness, mainstream French society turns a blind
> eye to its own violence, its own radical exclusion of racialized Others,
> and refuses to ask why France has become the major target of terroism in
> the Western world today. Meanwhile the doctrine of the "Great Replacement,"
> forged by the French racist Renaud Camus, has become the central dogma of
> American white supremacists.
>
> Now, you are right that everywhere is unique. But the slave trade was
> begun by Europeans. And colonialism was big business in Europe up to the
> 1950s. Today, the EU is walling itself off against the migratory waves
> caused in large part by the violently unequal economic and symbolic
> relations between white Europe and its near neighbors. The murder that
> protects European lifestyles today is the harbinger of a much more violent
> future, if nothing changes. So I would like to hear other unique stories
> from other European countries.
>
> There is a strong temptation, where I am concerned, to attribute this
> racist violence to the maintenance of class difference. How to make some
> people work for almost nothing, so that others can enjoy the cheap and
> sickening delights of consumer societies predicated on freely exploitable
> labor? If I did not know how China treats its minorities, I would think
> this kind of capitalist domination was a specifically European thing, due
> specifically to that civilization which dominated and plundered the entire
> world, before unleashing such destructive conflagrations in the twentieth
> century that finally, the European countries had to choke back their
> murderous rage and cloak it in the humanistic veils that prevail today.
> You'd be nuts to think that Europe is immune to racism. And yet one can say
> the same thing about China and India, and probably a whole lot more places.
>
> Whether it's capitalism, or some deeper atavistic drive that makes people
> act in these ways, I don't know. But I do think everyone, everywhere, ought
> to inquire more deeply into the foundations on which their own privilege,
> or lack of it, is based.
>
> in solidarity, Brian
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:27 AM Allanmini2 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>> Thank you Brian sharing your outrage; besides the points you mention, we
>> should also be clear about the origins and purposes of policing; while
>> globally there are obvious similarities there are also distinctions and
>> these can be telling. Without going into all the details, in the U.S. the
>> origins are connected to slavery and the posses that marauded and ran wild
>> throughout the South and parts of the North; the Underground Railroad was
>> not only a train that led to freedom but also the means to avoid
>> slave-catchers - early incarnations of the modern police. Here lies the
>> immorality and cultural bedrock that underpins most (if not all) police
>> forces in the U.S.. The absolutely wanton hand-out of military equipment
>> from the U.S. Pentagon just adds fuel to the fire - exponentially.
>> best
>> allan
>>
>> Sheriff Earle Brown, founder of the city where Daunte Wright was
>> murdered, was a longtime member of the KKK
>> <https://www.thenorthstar.com/p/sheriff-earle-brown-founder-of-the?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoyOTExMzM1NywicG9zdF9pZCI6MzUxMDk3MDcsIl8iOiJWZkIvRiIsImlhdCI6MTYxODMzMDkwNiwiZXhwIjoxNjE4MzM0NTA2LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMjc3NjU3Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.yJnZe8fgW5RQoaNn4CIBTGjmM7YS40GYgZBcQfiQJBk>
>>  "This
>> country has history. It has context. And if you simply scratch and sniff
>> the surface of almost any period of American history, you’re bound to get a
>> big whiff of racism and white supremacy. And that’s exactly what we see in
>> the town where police shot and killed 20 year old Daunte Wright this past
>> Sunday. Until Sunday, I had never heard of Brooklyn Center, Minnesota
>> before. Like so many American towns, its founding was literally rooted in
>> white power on the farm of a Klansman named Earle Brown. Of course, that
>> fact alone could color how we see Brooklyn Center, but it’s so much deeper
>> than that. Earle Brown was not simply a racist farmer who kept to himself,
>> he was the Sheriff of all of Hennepin County - home to Minneapolis. Under
>> his watch, the KKK thrived in Hennepin County, burning crosses and having
>> hooded marches all over town" Shaun King - The North Star
>>
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