Hello,
Some thoughts on the current dialogue:

There are some assumptions in this discussion that are rather questionable: for example, Brian 
states that:  "At this point the cognitive issue fadesand the question of will becomes 
primary AND "It [what to do... how to act? A.S.] no longer has primarily to do with 
knowledge, because science has spoken and people have heard and understood."

As GOVERNMENT/STATE responses to the COVID crisis demonstrate, as attacks on 
voting rights accelerate (not just in the U.S. by the way), and as the massive 
- global - apparatus of state 'controlled' media demonstrate the public/s are 
being swindled by a shit-storm of lies and misinformation; techno-conglomerates 
and corrupt governments (a growing list) are hoovering off astronomical amounts 
of what would be public funds further enabling clouds of misinformation. Fences 
are being erected around various communities of knowledge (and action) that 
restrict the flow of ideas that would make qualitative political change not 
only possible but realizable...

David has raised an important point: "Today a relatively new political grammar that 
clusters around the structuring polarities of technocracy and populism appears to make 
agreement on anything between  opponents impossible." The Biden camp was able to 
oust Trump because a coalition developed to make this possible; whereas, Labour in the UK 
resists such coalition building hence the Tory plutocrats and thieves merrily coast 
along... All of the issues on the table in this NET ZERO dialogue are incredibly 
important but if we cannot find ways to facilitate 'meaningful' coalitions all people's 
good intentions will be blown away by gangs of thugs in pin stripe suits or Zuckerberg 
T-shirts.

allan

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