Amazon.com, Facebook, etc. are not markets. As you enter them, you leave
capitalism behind. Within these platforms, one algorithm (belonging to
one person or to very few persons) decides what is on sale, who sees
which commodity is available, and how much rent the owner of the
platform will keep from the profits of vassal-capitalists allowed to
trade within the platform.

*This is incorrect and shows the risk of an economist/politician doing
media analysis. There is not 'one algorithm' running Amazon or Facebook. In
fact, many contemporary platforms employ hundreds of microservices, with
teams assigned to one or more of these services, often in different coding
languages or frameworks. Yes, the platform-owner exerts a significant
degree of control over the conditions within it. But this does not
annihilate pushback from producers (e.g. eBay lowering fees after protests
from sellers, Uber being forced to class freelancers as employees in
certain jurisdictions, etc). Yanis's analysis also erases any competition
between platforms (e.g. Netflix vs Hulu vs HBO etc). Platforms don't 'leave
capitalism behind' - sure they introduce new conditions but also rely
heavily on conventional aspects of capitalism (e.g. Uber beholden to
investors, Google's revenue coming from advertising). *


Big Tech’s workers do not even collect 1% of their employer’s revenues.
This is
because paid labour performs only a fraction of the work that Big Tech
benefits from. Who performs the bulk of the work? Most of the rest of
us! For the first time in history, almost everyone produces for free
(often enthusiastically)


*Also incorrect. In my PhD on Uber, Airbnb, and other platforms, cost of
labor actually consumed a huge amount of the bottom line each year. Indeed,
these frustratingly high costs were what fueled Uber's self-driving car
pilot programs, and drove pundit speculation that human labor would soon be
replaced. Of course, this turned into a nightmare and Uber stopped that
program in 2020 I believe. *


*This analysis not only erases the visible pool of working class labor that
fuels platforms like Deliveroo, Uber, etc, but it also ignores the hidden
labor that many platforms benefit from. Gray and Suri call this 'ghost
work'. We can think of content moderators forced to suffer through
traumatic content day in and day out. Technically they work for third party
companies that contract to Big Tech, neatly severing much of the
responsibility for workers. There's also a raft of other IT services (e.g.
data labelling, microtasks, crowd-work etc), with much of this hidden labor
sourced from the Global South, with poor pay and precarious conditions. *

*Sure, platforms also benefit from free labor in the form of reviews
(although there's also a black market for these). But the danger here is
that Yanis suggests that the problem is naive young Westerners doing free
labor because we've reached some shiny and unprecedented new form of
capitalism. The reality is that platform labor looks very much like older
forms of labor - racialized, gendered, leveraging colonial disparities,
etc. *


Command capital, in contrast, comprises produced means of organising the
means
of industrial production. Its owners can extract huge new value without
owning the means of industrial production; merely by owning the
privatised informational networks that embody command capital.

*Yes, but other commentators have picked up on this years ago. There's the
widely used Tom Goodwin quote: "Uber, the world’s largest taxi company,
owns no vehicles. Facebook, the world’s most popular media owner, creates
no content. Alibaba, the most valuable retailer, has no inventory. And
Airbnb, the world’s largest accommodation provider, owns no real estate."
His book came out in 2018. In fact, my own book from 2018 basically focuses
on how platforms 'exhaust' or extract this labor rather than 'using' it in
the traditional sense. That's not to say more attention and research on
this isn't useful and needed - it is. But the implicit claim throughout the
interview that no one else has recognized or diagnosed these conditions
(that he terms techno-feudalism) is a little too much. *

*Ngā mihi / best, Luke*

On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 at 22:30, Felix Stalder <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> At the end of a long interview on crypto, conducted by Evgeny Mozorov,
> Yanis Varoufakis outline, quite succinctly, his argument for rise of
> "techno-feudalism". It centers around the seeming paradox: "Capital is
> getting stronger but capitalism is dying."
>
> https://the-crypto-syllabus.com/yanis-varoufakis-on-techno-feudalism/
>
>
> __Q:
> ecently, you’ve taken up the theme of ‘techno-feudalism’, pointing out
> that capitalism is no longer what it once was. If I understand your
> thesis correctly, what makes the current system ‘feudal’ is that A)
> markets are no longer key to the making of profits (e.g. the QE
> experience suggests as much), while B) tech platforms have amassed
> immense political power, which is unprecedented in capitalism. Is it a
> correct summary of your argument?  Are there other important dimensions
> to ‘techno-feudalism’ that this summary doesn’t capture?
>
> __A:
> The question is this: Is capitalism undergoing one more of its many
> metamorphoses, thus warranting nothing more than a new epithet, e.g.
> rentier capitalism, platform capitalism, hyper-capitalism or
> xxxxx-capitalism? Or are we witnessing a qualitative transformation of
> capitalism into a brand new exploitative mode of production? I think the
> latter. Moreover, this is not just a theoretical issue. If I am right,
> grasping the radicality of this transformation is crucial to opposing
> this new systemic exploitation.
>
> Puzzlement is, of course, an understandable reaction to my claim – which
> needs a great deal of explanation and substantiation. Unable to offer it
> here in full (Nb. I am dedicating my next book to the subject), here is
> a flavour:
>
> Capitalism is everywhere we look. Capital is accumulating rapidly and
> beating labour over the head everywhere and in cruel new ways. So, how
> come I argue that this is no longer capitalism – but, rather, something
> worse and distinct? Let me begin by reminding our readers that back in
> the 1780s, feudalism was everywhere and feudal lords were stronger than
> ever. However, surreptitiously, capitalism was already infecting
> feudalism’s roots and a new ruling class (the bourgeoisie) was in the
> process of taking over.
>
> My claim is that, similarly today, capitalism – like feudalism in the
> 1780s – is being usurped by a far more exploitative and very distinct
> new extractive/exploitative system (which I call techno-feudalism), one
> that is arriving complete with a new ruling class.
>
> Critics of my thesis will point out, correctly, that capitalism has
> undergone many transformations – from its early competitive phase, to
> monopoly-oligopoly capitalism (1910–onwards), its Bretton-Woods period
> (during which finance was kept on a leash with capital controls, etc.),
> financialised capitalism (from 1980–onwards) and, more recently, rentier
> capitalism. All these capitalisms were distinct and interestingly
> different from one another. BUT, they were each a version of capitalism.
>
> What makes a system capitalist? The answer is: It is a system driven by
> private profits (Nb. not rents) extracted within markets. (To compare
> and contrast, feudalism was driven by rents extracted outside of
> markets.) Has that changed? I believe so. What has replaced profit on
> the one hand and markets on the other? My answer: Central bank money has
> replaced private profit (as the system’s main fuel and lubricant) and
> digital fiefdoms/platforms have become the realm in which value and
> capital are extracted from the majority by a tiny oligarchy.
>
> Let me explain this in greater detail:
>
> Hypothesis 1: Central bank money replaced private profits as the
> system’s driver
>
> Profitability no longer drives the system-as-a-whole, even though it
> remains the be-all and end-all for individual entrepreneurs. Consider
> what happened in London on August 12, 2020. It was the day markets
> learned that the British economy shrank disastrously – and by far more
> than analysts had expected (more than 20% of national income had been
> lost in the first seven months of 2020). Upon hearing the grim news,
> financiers thought: ‘Great! The Bank of England, panicking, will print
> even more pounds and channel them to us to buy shares. Time to buy shares!’
>
> This is just one of countless manifestations of a new global reality: In
> the United States and all over the West, central banks print money that
> financiers lend to corporations, which then use it to buy back their
> shares – whose prices are thus decoupled from profits. The new barons,
> as a result, expand their fiefs, courtesy of state money, even if they
> never earn a dime of profit! Moreover, they dictate terms on the
> supposed Sovereign – the central banks that keep them ‘liquid’. While
> the Fed, for example, prides itself over its power and independence, it
> is today utterly powerless to stop that which it started in 2008:
> printing money on behalf of bankers and corporates. Even if the Fed
> suspects that, in keeping the corporate barons liquid, it is
> precipitating inflation, it knows that ending the money printing will
> bring the house down. The terror of causing a bad debt and bankruptcy
> avalanche makes the Fed a hostage to its own decision to print and
> ensures that it will continue printing to keep the barons liquid. This
> has never happened before. Powerful central banks, which today keep the
> system going singlehandedly, have never wielded so little power. Only
> under feudalism did the Sovereign feel similarly subservient to its
> barons, while remaining responsible for keeping the whole edifice together.
>
> Hypothesis 2: Digital platforms are replacing markets
>
> Amazon.com, Facebook, etc. are not markets. As you enter them, you leave
> capitalism behind. Within these platforms, one algorithm (belonging to
> one person or to very few persons) decides what is on sale, who sees
> which commodity is available, and how much rent the owner of the
> platform will keep from the profits of vassal-capitalists allowed to
> trade within the platform. In short, more and more economic activity is
> shifting from markets to digital fiefs. And that’s not all.
>
> During the 20th century, and up to this day, workers in large capitalist
> oligopolistic firms (like General Electric, Exxon-Mobil, or General
> Motors) received approximately 80% of the company’s income. Big Tech’s
> workers do not even collect 1% of their employer’s revenues. This is
> because paid labour performs only a fraction of the work that Big Tech
> benefits from. Who performs the bulk of the work? Most of the rest of
> us! For the first time in history, almost everyone produces for free
> (often enthusiastically), adding to Big Tech’s capital stock (that is
> what it means to upload stuff on Facebook or move around while linked to
> Google Maps). And, moreover, this capital takes a new, far more powerful
> form (see below, where I talk about command capital).
>
> At the same time, firms operating in normal capitalist markets – outside
> Big Tech and Big Finance – see their profitability collapse anyway,
> their dependence on central bank money grow exponentially, and their
> ownership be gobbled up by private equity and SPACs. Ergo, as feudal
> social relations of production were on the wane (and replaced by
> capitalist social relations) in the 1780s, today it is capitalist social
> relations of production that are being replaced by what I call
> technofeudal social relations.
>
> Summing up:
>
> Capital is getting stronger but capitalism is dying. A new system is
> taking over in which a new ruling class owns and runs both the state
> money that lubricates it (instead of profits) and the new non-market
> realms in which the very, very few make the many work on their behalf.
> Capitalist profits (in the sense of the entrepreneurial profits as
> understood by Adam Smith and Marx) are disappearing, while new forms of
> rent are accumulating in the accounts of the new techno-lords in control
> of both the state and the digital fiefs, in which unwaged or precarious
> work is performed by the masses – who begin to resemble techno-peasants.
>
>
> __Q:
> A common refrain in arguments about the rise of techno-feudalism is that
> tech platforms are just passive rentiers who are deriving immense
> profits from user data for which they pay very little. To put this in
> the most extreme way possible, these are lazy, mostly immaterial
> rentiers, who, having amassed a lot of IP, are now resting on their
> laurels. This reading also informs many of the enthusiastic accounts of
> Web3, which promise to share data wealth with the users who generated
> it. Yet, if one looks at the balance sheets and earnings statements of
> these firms, a different picture emerges: they actually invest more –
> rather than less – in material and tangible assets than non-tech firms
> (and more than they themselves did a decade ago), all while incurring
> immense R&D and capital expenditures (e.g. Amazon’s for 2020 was over
> $40 billion; Alphabet’s was almost $30 billion). This seems to fit
> rather well with the view of these firms as capitalist enterprises that,
> while controlling some markets, still compete in others (Google,
> Facebook, and Amazon in advertising; Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and
> Alibaba in cloud computing and AI services). Aren’t we running the risk
> of minimizing the really-existing capitalist dynamics of this tech
> economy when we emphasize those related to feudalism?
>
> __A:
> I agree with you in this sense: Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, et al. invest
> massively and are nothing like the lazy aristocrats of the original
> feudal era. But that does not mean that their investment is part of a
> standard capitalist dynamic. Techno-feudalism is not merely feudalism
> with gadgets. It is simultaneously much more advanced than capitalism
> and reminiscent of feudalism.
>
> Let me be more precise. The massive investment of Big Tech that you
> mention is crucial. Not just because of its size but, primarily, because
> of what it produces: a new form of capital that I call command capital.
> What is command capital?
>
> Standard capital comprises produced means of production. Command
> capital, in contrast, comprises produced means of organising the means
> of industrial production. Its owners can extract huge new value without
> owning the means of industrial production; merely by owning the
> privatised informational networks that embody command capital.
>
> Command capital, to be more precise, lives on privately owned
> networks/platforms and has the potential to command those who do not own
> it to do two things: Train the machines/algorithms on which it lives to
> (A) direct our consumption patterns; and (B) directly manufacture even
> more command capital on behalf of its owners (e.g. posting stuff on
> Facebook, a form of labour de-commodification).
>
> In more abstract terms: Standard capital allows capitalists to amass
> surplus exchange value. Command capital, in contrast, allows
> techno-lords (i.e. Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, et al.) to amass surplus
> command value. Command value? Yes: Any digital commodity has command
> value to the extent that its buyer can use it to convert expressive
> everyday human activity into the capacity to train an algorithm to do
> two things: (A) make us buy stuff, and (B) make us produce command
> capital for free and for their benefit.
>
> In the language of Marx’s political economy, the magnitude of command
> value contained in any digital commodity is determined by the sum of:
> the surplus value of the commodities it makes us buy (see A above) + the
> labour time socially/technically necessary for us to produce a unit of
> command capital (under B above), to be appropriated instantly by the
> techno-lords.
>
> In summary, what Bezos, Musk, et al. are accomplishing through their
> massive investments cannot be understood in terms of either feudalism or
> capitalism.
>
> - Feudalism was based on the direct extraction of experiential/use value
> from peasants.
>
> - Capitalism was based on the extraction of surplus labour from waged
> labour.
>
> - Technofeudalism is a new system in which the techno-lords are
> extracting a new power to make the rest of us do things on their behalf.
> This new power comes from investing in a new form of capital (command
> capital) that allows them to amass a new type of value (command value)
> which, in turn, grants them the opportunity to extract surplus value
> from (i) vassal-capitalists, (ii) the precariat, and (iii) everyone
> using their platforms to produce on their behalf, unconsciously, even
> more command capital.
>
>
>
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