A Frederick wiseman nod would have made any review more valuable, for sure. 
Thank you, Brian, for your depth of thinking and participation. I am a 
shameless lurker and have been learning from nettime for over a decade now. 

> On Feb 15, 2022, at 9:33 PM, Brian Holmes <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for this - I am totally curious about Chinese society and haven't been 
> there for a long time. Actually, more recommendations would be cool.
> 
> The film Ascension is sometimes beautiful, but at all times devastating. All 
> the reviewers picked up the connection to Koyaanisqatsi which is there in the 
> first part; but they missed the one to Frederick Wiseman, who devoted his 
> films to the relentless analysis of people's behavior within institutional 
> constraints. Throughout Ascension, the institution that's analyzed is 
> neoliberal pedagogy - training people to perform for the corporation and to 
> bear up to corporate cynicism. You see workers being trained to paint the 
> nipple on a sex doll, salespeople being trained to prey on their peers, and 
> servants being trained to lick the boots of the oligarchy, who are themselves 
> trained to drink French wine and the like.
> 
> This is a polemical film, relieved a bit by the filmmaker's inside knowledge 
> of Chinese society and baffling capacity to get into, well, some of the most 
> banal industrial, commercial and business settings you can imagine. Surely 
> she told them she was making a film to glorify the rise of the new 
> superpower. But it's basically showing an entire country being pushed into 
> neoliberal ideology - or at least, submission - in order to produce floods of 
> meaningless crap for the West and a gigantic high-end consuming class for 
> China. 
> 
> Too bad those are the only ideas. If you're really into cinema, you might 
> give it a pass. If you're really curious about China, check it out.
> 
> Brian
> 
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 9:15 AM J Drew <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I haven’t had a chance to see it yet but the reviews suggest #ascension may 
>> be worth seeing in light of David’s analysis of Xi Jinping’s *Hobbesian* 
>> Chinese state. 
>>  
>> Official trailer: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ojRgr6h68IQ
>> 
>>>> On Feb 12, 2022, at 6:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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>>> Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 10:26:56 +0000
>>> From: David Garcia <[email protected]>
>>> To: patrice riemens <[email protected]>,
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>>> Many thanks Brian and Patrice? When Johnson came on TV as head of state and 
>>> did not advise but ?instructed? me, my family and the rest of the country 
>>> to ?lock down? I experienced the actual fact and reality of state power as 
>>> never before. Much as I despise Johnson and all his works I supported this 
>>> use of state power as a uniquely powerful means of supporting the value of 
>>> mutual dependency over the value of individual freedom, (this was very 
>>> difficult for Johnson as a libertarian Tory as we now realise in the wake 
>>> of partygate). A new and intense awareness of mutual dependency and the 
>>> collective agency of which we are capable was the great revelation of the 
>>> pandemic and our only hope of survival. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But the debate over state power and where we might seek to draw the line 
>>> goes well beyond traji/comic Johnson sideshow. Anyone claiming, as Patrice, 
>>> does that the state is merely an impotent  ?conveyer belt? steered by 
>>> corporate forces has to explain the effectiveness of Xi Jinping?s Hobbesian 
>>> Chinese state in reigning in their own corporate giants. The last 18 months 
>>> has seen Xi cracking the whip and imprisoning (and doing anything else 
>>> required) to re-assert state sovereignty over corporate hubris. This even 
>>> extends to legislating time allowed to kids for gaming not to mention 
>>> tinkering with the education policy as Xi has decided that the tech and 
>>> finance sectors are sucking too many talented graduates away from more 
>>> tangible forms of manufacturing. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Some European/western political actors are looking with envy at the 
>>> perceived effectiveness of the Chinese (and other proactive Sth East Asian 
>>> states) in their forthright nation-wide actions in containing Covid. The 
>>> likelihood is that this is just a foretaste of an increasingly loud debate 
>>> over the limits and role state power will play as the climate crunch really 
>>> starts to bite. This is when we will return to the earlier postings on this 
>>> thread that spoke about the science wars. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Garcia    
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: patrice riemens <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Saturday, 12 February 2022 at 08:51
>>> To: <[email protected]>, David Garcia 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: <nettime> The Meaning of Boris Johnson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Aloha, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Let me (allow me to) take Brian's rejoinder as an opportunity to address 
>>> David's and his argument in face of the (dangerous) shenanigans in 10, 
>>> Clowning Street (-Marina Hyde, TG) ... and beyond. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There is absolutely no doubt that Boris Johnson is a very 'special' 
>>> character and political animal (Rory Stewart too, btw - but then in a 
>>> positive sense), but as David says, his clowneries are froth while 'his 
>>> administration is less of an outlier than it appears' - and this with 
>>> deadly consequences.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I however do differ with David where he ascribe the current 
>>> political-ideological imbroglio to the 'return of the state' as a 
>>> consequence of the pandemic. According to me, to put it bluntly, nothing of 
>>> the such has happened. The state has become more impotent than ever, and it 
>>> are the corporate forces which have and are steering the decision-making 
>>> process, with the state as mere conveyor belt. There is no confusion there, 
>>> and even if it appears to happen more by default than by design, it is 
>>> still entirely deliberate.We have truly and wholesomely entered the era of 
>>> 'govcorp' where the administrative apparatus is merely, albeit 
>>> indispensable, exo-squeleton of global corporate governance, with, in 
>>> accordance with the spirit of the times, 'hyper' - and hyper rich - 
>>> individuals at the helm. Welcome to neo-feudalism.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am afraid that is such a dispensation, clowns like Boris Johnson, and his 
>>> exceptionally 'gifted' motley crew ('Jakey' Rees-Mogg, 'Mad Nad' -ine 
>>> Dorries, & the many such) are mere props (the extent to which they are 
>>> conscious of it is unclear) in the tragedy which are embroiled in for quite 
>>> a while: that of post-politics, that is a system where the powers are not 
>>> what they look and are not located where they seem to be, and the ongoings 
>>> take, for the people at large, every appearance of a puzzle palace. I think 
>>> this is one of the reason for populism: desperately trying to make sense 
>>> where it has vanished from the political scene (which has vanished too in 
>>> the process) .  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> & With regard to Brian's derive of the unhappy pranksters towards a 
>>> military expedient: he is completely right, while at the same time, to 
>>> parakeet Jean Marie Le Pen's totally infame dismissal of the Shoah as a 
>>> footnote, it is, 'ontologically speaking', a mere side-show. Even though, 
>>> with a war in Europe at our doorstep, we might very well die in it for 
>>> real.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah, it's a fine mess indeed. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers all the same , and happy week-end 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 02/11/2022 9:17 PM Brian Holmes <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David, your second paragraph sums up a really complex situation in a few 
>>> words, thank you. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's fairly easy to understand how right-wing populists raise the anger of 
>>> the people. They do it with fear, born largely of their own mismanagement. 
>>> Fear of the pandemic, of economic disruption, of war, of climate change - 
>>> and maybe most of all, fear of the "return of the state" that's 
>>> more-or-less required by all that. But you put your finger on something 
>>> else, which is that these populist (and yet usually upper class) 
>>> politicians have to go on *pretending* to believe in their old conservative 
>>> lines about lowering taxes and shrinking government. Where will the 
>>> pretence lead them? Right now BoJo is trying to save his political ass by 
>>> exploiting the fear of war, and more, the nationalist pride of militarism - 
>>> which would be the logical supplement to the old conservative lines. In 
>>> fact he's pretty much openly claiming a military role for post-Brexit 
>>> "Global Britain." 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How do you see this latest development? Is it going to work? Could 
>>> warmongering nationalism be the new rhetorical resource of the right, 
>>> beyond Johnson? Or is this just his last desperate gambit on the way out? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From my viewpoint it is sickening to see this kind of political theater 
>>>> played in the face of genuinely dangerous situations. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> best, Brian 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rory Stuart, one of the old-style Tories purged by Johnson and Cummings has 
>>> created a fabulous taxonomy to illustrate Johnson?s gifts ?as the most 
>>> accomplished liar in British public life ?perhaps the best liar ever to 
>>> serve as prime minister,?  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ?He has? according to Stuart ?mastered the use of error, omission, 
>>> exaggeration, diminution, equivocation and flat denial. He has perfected 
>>> casuistry, circumlocution, false equivalence and false analogy. He is 
>>> equally adept at the ironic jest, the fib and the grand lie; the weasel 
>>> word and the half-truth; the hyperbolic lie, the obvious lie, and the 
>>> bullshit lie ? which may inadvertently be true.? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But despite all of this it is just about possible to argue that Johnson has 
>>> read the runes better than many other Tories and that much of the weirdness 
>>> of UK politics is to some extent froth. His administration is perhaps less 
>>> of an outlier than it appears. He is a man of few fixed ideological beliefs 
>>> which is how (like Merkle) he has held together a coalition with 
>>> contradictory ideologies.. The ?greased piglet? is hard to pin down. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Like many countries and regions, Johnson has had to respond to the biggest 
>>> change brought about by the pandemic which has been to accelerate a shift 
>>> in favour of a greater role for the state. Including the nation state in 
>>> part because of the pandemic pressure to close boarders. Unlike other 
>>> Tories Johnson is at ease with this along with other aspects of an 
>>> interventionist state, despite frequently pretending otherwise.. The return 
>>> of the nation state is part of what is becoming a more geo-politically 
>>> charged world which includes a new awareness of the entanglement of supply 
>>> chain pressures with questions of security and risk (e.g. Russian 
>>> pipeline). The newly empowered state is also a consequence of the 
>>> eye-watering amount of borrowing required to keep our economies from 
>>> flat-lining. So even for Tories on the right of the party any return to the 
>>> old fiscal narrative will be pretty much impossible. And Johnson has been 
>>> quicker to recognise this than other Tories. Despite Thatcherite n
>>> ostalgia there can be no going back to the Cameron Osbourne response to the 
>>> 2008 crisis.  Johnson?s conservatism recognises that there can be no return 
>>> to small state with low taxes conservatism. His claims to NetZero ambitions 
>>> means that world has gone..(But of course he often has to pretend 
>>> otherwise) The post-covid mad Johnsonian UK has the appearance of a 
>>> hyper-weird outlier. But wipe the froth of the Johnson Cappuccino and he 
>>> maybe less of an outlier than it first appears. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David Garcia 
>>> 
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