Re: <nettime> Scatter(ed) Dynamics  (text): audio.culture.theory
     Matze Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
          "tim jaeger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:18:33 +0100
From: Matze Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Scatter(ed) Dynamics  (text): audio.culture.theory

hi,

Thursday, January 2, 2003, 7:59:38 AM, you wrote:
tj> Our new
tj> 21st century Schizophrenia is a product of the culture of the copy, the 
tj> culture of the cut. Like Sherrie Levine and Ladytron.  Cutting and pasting 
tj> constantly, endlessly, maddeningly.

after the theory of the shizo-theorists D&G i'd call this not the product but
the production, because production is NOT dependent upon capital (this would
mean a monopoly) but on the wish; but it seems that cutting (in the sense of
deconstructive mixing), to repeat and repeat an repeat the cut, is no more a
very productive schizo-strategy, but the expected work (labor) of the artist,
who is known the social worker responsible for the expected unexpected. and
is'n the shizo the welcome figure in the bourgeois fantasy of freedom, because
the shizo acts like the bourgeois wants to? so one could say "From the
organized schiz comes the violenced." and i would not identitfy cultural
schizophrenia as a luxury or a necessity - it is the other way round, in its
productivity it is a *social* drive or a technique, which is not where the
individual cell looses its borders in a kind of 'natural way' but in a rational
way. an the cut as 'cut itself' is nothing. even bankers use "the cut" of time
& space to make their deals (buy in tokyo, sell in frankfurt, or look at so
called "futures"), those people do constantly "re-frame spaces", is a banker
therefore shizo?

best

matze

ps: funny: the quote-name-machine of my mailprog makes a tj> out of tim jaeger which 
means TextJockey in a
little theory i created with a friend (-> http://www.c-io.de if problems
with A$P please! "Reload")

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From: "tim jaeger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Scatter(ed) Dynamics (text): audio.culture.theory

Matze,

so one could say "From the organized
>schiz comes the violenced."
>and i would not identitfy cultural schizophrenia as a luxury or a
>necessity - it is the other way round, in its productivity it is a
>*social* drive or a technique, which is not where the individual cell 
>looses its borders
>in a kind of 'natural way' but in a rational way. an the cut as 'cut 
>itself' is nothing. even
>bankers use "the cut" of time & space to make their deals (buy in tokyo,
>sell in frankfurt, or look at so called "futures"), those people do 
>constantly "re-frame
>spaces", is a banker therefore shizo?


but the schizo (in the medical sense of the illness) is not that way out of 
a social drive, the illness is actually quiet anti-social (such as schizos 
claiming that they can move atoms, are hearing the voice of god, etc. 
etc.)....as a cultural drive it's almost impossible to say something like, 
"this is an intentional schiz, this is unintentional" without coming to a 
consensus on what is natural, what is rational, etc.

i agree, the cut as "cut itself" means not a thing! i tried to combine some 
of these thoughts of the cut-n-paste with the idea of the meshwork, which is 
to say that it's (these examples of cultural schizophrenia) much more 
totalizing, and much less obvious where all the sources one is using are 
coming from, where the origin originates.

that's why some sort of "return" to the past or older models is impossible, 
b/c we're already entangled in a cultural meshwork that keeps building, 
cutting, pasting, discarding, etc.

a banker is schizo in a much more obvious way, "cutting" in between cities, 
inserting "futures" only to serve the costs and returns on investment. You 
won't see a banker insert 'strange' data into stock reports, though, which 
is what my text gets at....these sort of cuts have to appear natural. you 
won't see any 'abject' cuts. so maybe yes, "from the organized schiz comes 
the violent" if you mean to say that capitalism is somehow violent. I'm not 
sure to think about this. That's why a group like the Yes Men is so 
interesting, because they're framing entire cycles of media, business, and, 
for example, WTO policies, merely by inserting themselves as deviant, even 
viral, elements into the fray, and documenting on their website 
www.theyesmen.org.

but the text is just a way to come to terms with recent practices, and 
attempt to find a way to figure out how new practices work, plain and 
simple.

-Tim Jaeger

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