Semantic shifts are so common they hardly deserve attention, far less
condemnation. "Unscrupulous use by media..." seriously? Language is defined
by usage, not by rules. Awful, cunning, crafty, villain, lewd --
degeneration happens all the time to words. (See how 'morphing' has gone
from a motion picture technique of "changing one image into another through
a seamless transition" to any damn manipulation of a still or moving image,
including pixellation. It's too late to reclaim it, at least in India).

Given that the older -- and once fairly common -- homonym of 'hacking'
means to cut or chop roughly (and thanks to you guys we are in danger of
losing a perfectly good word), you should be a little more forgiving of the
continued evolution of hacking.

Sajan



On 15 July 2012 10:15, Vickram Crishna <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Jul 15, 2012 8:50 AM, "satyaakam goswami" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> But the FSMK people have decided to use the term "ethical hacking" for
> >> "hacking + Activism" and possibly beyond.
> >> http://www.fsmk.org/ethical-hacking
> >>
> >> Is this a good move?
> >
> >
> > time will tell , so far the users of the term have had made money , also
> the motive of FSMK is not clear may be they wanted to catch the attention
> as in publicity since the spin web doctors and media have done so much to
> register the term in people 's mind it  makes it so much more easier to
> sell something than  just old philosophical and moral high ground points.
> >
> > etymologically speaking there is some research to be done to find how
> this word came into being , a quick web search just could find one such
> paper on the http://digitalcommons.kennesaw.edu/facpubs/1451/ term but
> alas that too was not accessible to me it looks like lots of terms like
> spam,hacker which have made it to the urban language then to the
> dictionaries , so may be this term will be as acceptable to you as spam is
> over period of time.
> >
> > this was the most interesting one did not know that RMS was a whithat
> till i read this http://www.protectivehacks.com/Ethical-Hacking.html , as
> i said this one and many more like these ....have used and abused the term.
> >
> > so overall it speaks of changing times and desperation of certain
> organizations to have themselves heard you should be writing to the
> organizations and the individuals in order to understand what the motives
> has been if you have an issue with them.
> >
> > but yes i agree it does make a case to study and publish something about
> what the term really means wrt to free software , open source etc..  now i
> think i am getting into an area where most people here are not comfortable
> with like researching with these terms itself , i think it will soon become
> OT :-) because of the etymological research we are talking about.
> >
>
> I think we have to recognise that, just like air pollution, a situation
> aided and abetted by deliberate action on the part of various stakeholders,
> 'hacking' in India is a legal term that is taken to be equivalent to
> cracking, which to any ordinary student of English, is a far more evocative
> term.
>
> In this case, FSMK seems to be bowing to the inevitable, at least for the
> purpose of this workshop, although it blames the media solely for this
> situation. To quote the page ' To clarify this distinction two other terms
> - ethical hacking and cracking are used now.' There is no attempt at
> clarifying by whom these terms are used.
>
> C'est la vie!
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