On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Derek Broughton wrote:
> On 9/28/06, Pat Suwalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>> > You have a different definition of "apparent" than I do :-(
>>
>> It literally shows everything it does, is what "apparent" means to me.
>
> Dumping everything it does, doesn't make a program's actions
> _apparent_. It leads to confusion without enlightenment.
>
>> wpa_supplicant handles unencrypted networks too. If NetworkManager
>> didn't use it, it would have to use some other interface to connect to
>> open networks. This way, everything is handled the same way, leaving
>> less chance for error.
>
> Except that I actually _get_ data on that network until wpa_supplicant
> gets into the act, so it manages to bring up an interface without
> wpa_supplicant in the first place.
>
>> Sounds like scanning is broken on your driver. I know the feeling.
>
> Except that it was never a problem with early versions of network
> manager - it _could be the driver, as it's just using the in-kernel
> ipw2200, and I update kernels regularly, but I doubt it. I used NM
> successfully for about a year. I actually think it has developed a
> hardware problem, but I can get the interface to work (sometimes)
> using manual ifup/ifdown commands and not with NM.
The latest kernels (at least in FC) are not using the latest ipw2200
drivers. If you want to try the latest, see
www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/fc2-ipw2200.shtml. These are mostly working
very well for me.
ifup/ifdown *should* be dead-on reliable, if the config files are correct.
One thing I've noticed about NM is that sometimes after some
suspend/resume cycles, I can't reconnect to any wireless network without
toggling "enable wireless", restarting NM, and/or unloading/reloading the
ipw2200 driver. Otherwise, it's working well.
--
Matthew Saltzman
Clemson University Math Sciences
mjs AT clemson DOT edu
http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs
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