What about using STUN servers? They are already up for messageingservices. And let a program handle it, put the information up on dbus and let networkmanager see if it exists.
Sounds simple but I could be wrong. /Martin Den 2008-04-04 22:25:07 skrev Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I address each of these issues with short reference quotes rather than > quoting the entire previous emails. > >> 1) Captive portals ... >> 2) pinging google/root-dns/whatever ... >> 3) page-scraping google/yahoo/whatever ... >> 4) ARP-ing a known MAC ... >> 5) Proxies: pretty much explanatory ... > > The issues you bring up are good, and I will continue to think about > the problem and present ideas. > >> A bit problem here is user trust issues ... >> A good example of this issue is the Firefox SSL self-signed-certificate > > I completely agree, if the user gets false positives anything more > than 1 in 100 times then the functionality is detrimental as your > burdened with extra code and ui complexity without any real benefit. > Oh believe me when I say I understand this problem all too well. > >> I'm not against it, I just need to see an implementation that doesn't >> have too many false-positives and doesn't have too many false negatives >> first. > > That may be possible, the main barriers we have are: > 1) Captive Portals, > 2) Proxies > 3) VPNs (issue?) > 4) Causing lots of traffic > >> The big question I have is "What does Vista do?" > > I don't think it's worth looking at Vista, (and no not because it's > windows) I don't believe it's worth looking at a flawed system (as > you've pointed out) when the system is hidden and the problem should > be solvable from first principles. > >> In the end, it's certainly possible for an external tool ... > > I do believe that there is room for a research project which can test > methods. But I strongly object to any formal project since it would > complicate functionality, responsibility and make the NH project > complacent in incorporating such functionality without significant > want from core developers. > > Now an Idea I just had was a kind of DNS test which would look at 2 or > 3 domains to see if any addresses come back (no dns) if the addresses > are all the same (Captive Portals). I'm not very familar with proxies > and vpns to have a clear idea of the results from those set ups. This > may in fact be related to the "Search Domains" which windows has had > for a long time but I can't be sure. > > Thoughts? > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > _______________________________________________ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list _______________________________________________ NetworkManager-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
