On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 06:30 -0400, Andrew wrote:
> >On Mon, 2008-09-29 at 18:44 -0400, Andrew wrote:
> >> >>On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:21 -0400, Andrew wrote:
> >> >>> Hello, 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I have appealed to the Fedora Forum, but no one seems to have a clue 
> >> >there.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Here is the thread:
> >> >>> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=199562
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> (A quick synopsis of the thread:
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I've activated/deactivated everything i could think of, related to 
> >> >>NetworkManager; yet, everything wireless is grayed out in the applet.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> But wpa_supplicant (cli) works! 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Additional info (beyond above thread):
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I compiled the latest NetworkManager svn; still same grayed out 
> >behavior.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> )
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I tried looking in the source and tracing the calls to and from  
> >> >>nm_client_wireless_get_enabled (if that's even a function) but, ignorant 
> >of 
> >> >C, 
> >> >>didn't get far.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Please help!
> >> >>
> >> >>Does NM think wireless is disabled because a HAL killswitch is reporting
> >> >
> >> >Don't know enough about HAL to answer the above.  (Where would i look?)
> >> >
> >> >>that it's off?  Could you post some logs from /var/log/messages from
> >> >>when NM starts up?  
> >> >
> >> >please see attachment.  (i've X'ed out some addresses (xxxx:xxxx:....)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ooops.  The list strips attachment.  Here is a web link to the same 
> >/var/log/messages chunk:
> >> 
> >>      http://www.flight.us/bugs/var_messages_nm_chunk.txt
> >
> >What's the output of:
> >
> >dellWirelessCtl
> 
> Here it is: http://www.flight.us/bugs/dellWirelessCtl.txt
> 
> OK, it appears that the "problem"(?) /does/ originate in the BIOS (I did 
> present this hypothesis at the Fedora forum, but no one took that path, which 
> now seems correct)

Yeah, if dellWirelessCtl says the WLAN is disabled, then that's what the
BIOS thinks.  The best thing I think you could do is file a bug against
'libsmbios' package in Fedora bugzilla and the Dell guys will try to
help you debug.

Dan

> For a quick & dirty fix: any way to force the disabled/enabled switch in the 
> NM source?  Again, i tried to find this in the source and failed.  Where is 
> it?
> 
> I wonder if this can be considered a bug or glitch -- my situation apparently 
> presents a need for NM to be more user-configurable here.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> >HAL found a killswitch and NM is honoring the setting of that killswitch
> >apparently.
> >
> >Dan
> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >NM keeps saying "wlan1: link is not ready"
> >> >
> >> >Yet, I can do "iwconfig" and "iwlist" with NO problem whatsoever, with 
> >> >good 
> >
> >> >results.  Plus, as i said earlier (this seems VERY significant), i can 
> >connect 
> >> >with wpa_supplicant no prob (all the while NM is saying "wireless is 
> >> >disabled"!)
> >> >
> >> >>It could also be that you've disabled the device in
> >> >>system-config-network, in which case the menu will say the device is
> >> >>"unmanaged".
> >> >
> >> >I have played with system-config-network every which way, before. "wlan1" 
> >(and 
> >> >"wlan0") are both assigned to NM, ("Controlled by NM" is checked). (wlan0 
> >> >versus wlan1 is created depending on which atheros card i insert -- i 
> >> >have 
> >two 
> >> >at my disposal)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>dan

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