Dan Williams wrote: > > > There are two reasons I've not yet added pre-up and pre-down. They are: > >
Whatever reasons there might be to have or not to have a pre-up and pre-down phase: Omitting them in a single tool is simply the wrong place. Many packets for debian/ubuntu are designed for the four phases of the ifup/down system of debian for pretty good reasons. If someone believes that this is wrong, then it should be discussed in general and not just omitted randomly by a single tool breaking the distribution policy. I am fully aware that network manager has never been designed for debian/ubuntu, and is a redhat tool (although I am astonished that these good reasons should not apply to any distribution, e.g. security reasons). I do not see any reason why NetworkManager should not call external pre-up and pre-down commands/scripts. It is the admin's or package maintainers problem if this script does not work properly. Leave it empty if you want. However, if NetworkManager is strictly designed to not support more than two phases, then it might fit into RedHat, but not into the four phases-system of debian and ubuntu. Then it is simply the wrong tool for these distributions and the wrong decision to choose it. Beyond the dispute whether two or four phases should be supported, Network Manager does not pass the required Information to the up/down scripts. Expecting the scripts to retrieve details with a given UUID over dbus is error prone and bad design, and it does not make the script run any faster. I still believe that Network Manager is based on too many design mistakes requires a severe redesign and improved programming style (or replacement for ubuntu). regards Hadmut _______________________________________________ NetworkManager-list mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
