Hi Mr. Walker,

Finally ! I meet someone who is facing the same problem as I am. Lucky for
me but unlucky for you ! Hmmm, I have no idea either. *Even the guys who
work with this stuff don't have good clues* ... I don't know, if someone can
tell me if I can get this to work without the NetworkManager with the
traditional ifup/down commands ... but I am such a newbie ... :(

and the strange thing ! some how it used to work on it's own !!! :P

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Francis Walker <[email protected]>wrote:

> No Wireless Connection
>
> I have the same problem as Junaid Naseer.    My laptop and desktop are
> running Linux, Ubuntu 8.04 cannot connect to the internet wirelessly.
> Network Manager used to detect the wireless networks around me (six) and now
> neither computer recognizes them or my own router.  I know the Wireless
> system is working as I have friends who have come into my home with their
> WIndows machines and the wireless transmissions work fine.   I have
> reinstalled the operating system twice and Network Manager a number of times
> on both computers in an attempt to get the system to work, but no luck.  I
> tried a number of fixes over the months and finally gave up.  It is a
> nuisance when I travel as my laptop is almost useless when I attempt to use
> the internet.   I have to locate a cybercafe or library to pay bills or
> check my email and usually must use their computers. However, I have no
> problem connecting to the internet via an Ethernet cable on both computers.
> If I am lucky, the library or cybercafe has an Ethernet connection I can
> plug into my laptop.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Francis Walker
>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: no wireless networks detected
> Message-ID: <1302972839.17768.2.camel@
> linux-junaid>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi,
>
> My networkmanager is not automatically detecting the dozen or so
> wireless networks surrounding me, even though it used to do so earlier,
> until i had to reninstall the system from scratch. All drivers etc are
> installed and all versions of the OS and network manager are the same.
> Earlier it used to work. Now it doesn't.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:30 PM, 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>   1. Modem-/NetworkManager support for modems not using PPP
>>      (Marius Kotsbak)
>>   2. no wireless networks detected (Junaid Naseer)
>>   3. Re: no wireless networks detected (Timothy Murphy)
>>   4. How nm-applet and gnome-bluetooth interact to create a
>>      bluetooth connection? (Lamarque Vieira Souza)
>>   5. Q: nm-gsm-device.c (ran shalit)
>>   6. Re: Q: nm-gsm-device.c (Lamarque Vieira Souza)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:57:49 +0200
>> From: Marius Kotsbak <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Modem-/NetworkManager support for modems not using PPP
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> Hi!
>>
>> There seems to be now quite a bit of modems appearing now that does not
>> support the old method of using PPP protocol on the same tty device as
>> the AT commands are sent, or it is not recommended for higher HSPA+ and
>> LTE modems because of performance limitations of the PPP/tty layer.
>> Those devices typically accept AT commands at one interface and use
>> another interface for the network traffic (including first a DHCP query).
>>
>> One example is the Samsung GT-B3730 I'm currently developing drivers for:
>>
>> https://github.com/mkotsbak/Samsung-GT-B3730-linux-driver
>>
>> It seems to be the same case for LG VL600 4G (LTE):
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10589647&postcount=17
>>
>> https://github.com/balrog-kun/LG-VL600-utils
>>
>> The Ericsson Mobile Broadband Modules (I have an F5521gw based modem)
>> seems to offer both the old ACM ports and support USB WCM / CDC NCM /
>> CDC Ethernet protocols for higher performance:
>>
>>
>> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ericsson_F3507g_Mobile_Broadband_Module#Connecting_to_the_net_via_CDC_Ethernet_interface
>>
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/mbm/index.php?title=MBM#Prerequisites
>>
>> http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/USB_NET_CDC_NCM.html
>>
>> I wonder if support for this has been implemented or thought about in
>> Modem-/NetworkManager. We probably need a flag for a modem manager
>> module to tell that it does not use PPP and require to get IP address
>> using DHCP instead.
>>
>> Else those devices benefit from the code in modem manager (and should be
>> classified as such to the user as well), like the PIN unlocking, signal
>> strength (typically found on the same device as dialling happened, since
>> network traffic flow on a separate interface)  etc. The configuration
>> tab for PPP could be hidden for those devices. For devices offering
>> multiple ways to connect, the modem manager module should probably find
>> the best performing according to the available kernel modules and use
>> that method.
>>
>> --
>> Marius Kotsbak
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:53:59 +0200
>> From: Junaid Naseer <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: no wireless networks detected
>> Message-ID: <1302972839.17768.2.camel@linux-junaid>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My networkmanager is not automatically detecting the dozen or so
>> wireless networks surrounding me, even though it used to do so earlier,
>> until i had to reninstall the system from scratch. All drivers etc are
>> installed and all versions of the OS and network manager are the same.
>> Earlier it used to work. Now it doesn't.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Junaid Naseer
>>
>> MS Digital Communications
>> Technische Fakult?t, CAU Kiel,
>> Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:30:55 +0100
>> From: Timothy Murphy <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: no wireless networks detected
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>>
>> Junaid Naseer wrote:
>>
>> > My networkmanager is not automatically detecting the dozen or so
>> > wireless networks surrounding me, even though it used to do so earlier,
>> > until i had to reninstall the system from scratch. All drivers etc are
>> > installed and all versions of the OS and network manager are the same.
>> > Earlier it used to work. Now it doesn't.
>>
>> I've found NM often says "No wireless networks detected"
>> even when it is actually connected to one.
>>
>> --
>> Timothy Murphy
>> e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
>> tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
>> s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:15:47 -0300
>> From: Lamarque Vieira Souza <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: How nm-applet and gnome-bluetooth interact to create a
>>        bluetooth       connection?
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>        Hi all,
>>
>>        Alex Fiestas and me are trying to implement Bluetooth DUN support
>> for
>> KDE. We spent some time trying to figure out the steps nm-applet and
>> gnome-
>> bluetooth do to implement it but without much success. Can someone help
>> us?
>>
>>        During my tests I hit this part of NM code in src/nm-manager.c:
>>
>>        /* If it was a Bluetooth modem and no bluetooth device claimed it,
>> ignore
>>         * it.  The rfcomm port (and thus the modem) gets created
>> automatically
>>         * by the Bluetooth code during the connection process.
>>         */
>>        if (driver && !strcmp (driver, "bluetooth")) {
>>                nm_log_info (LOGD_MB, "ignoring modem '%s' (no associated
>> Bluetooth
>> device)", ip_iface);
>>                return;
>>        }
>>
>>        Commenting the "return" allows me to use my cellphone as bluetooth
>> serial
>> modem (after creating /dev/rfcomm0 using BlueZ), but of course I guess
>> that
>> code is there for a reason. I still do not understand how gnome-bluetooth
>> (or
>> nm-applet) creates the rfcomm port. I know that can be done using BlueZ's
>> DBus
>> interface by calling the org.bluez.Serial.Connect method on a bluetooth
>> device. But since NM is explicitly ignoring the rfcomm port, how are NM's
>> bluetooth connections supposed to work?
>>
>> --
>> Lamarque V. Souza
>> http://www.geographicguide.com/brazil.htm
>> Linux User #57137 - http://counter.li.org/
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:22:29 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: ran shalit <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Q: nm-gsm-device.c
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am a newbie student of the NetworkManager, and I try to undetsrand the
>> way
>> the application treats with modem & wifi devices (more ineterseted in the
>> low level parts of the NetworkManager application: the "commands" to the
>> devices).
>> I saw that in the older released version such as 0.7.2 there was a file
>> /src/nm-gsm-device.c which contained some of the AT-COMMAND used for
>> initialization of modems, but in the updated version there is no such
>> file(as far as I can find), and I dont see anywhere else where AT-Command
>> are used. Does anyone knows how these commands are used then in the
>> updated
>> version ?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Ran
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 02:30:34 -0300
>> From: Lamarque Vieira Souza <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Q: nm-gsm-device.c
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Em Sunday 17 April 2011, ran shalit escreveu:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am a newbie student of the NetworkManager, and I try to undetsrand the
>> > way the application treats with modem & wifi devices (more ineterseted
>> in
>> > the low level parts of the NetworkManager application: the "commands" to
>> > the devices).
>> > I saw that in the older released version such as 0.7.2 there was a file
>> > /src/nm-gsm-device.c which contained some of the AT-COMMAND used for
>> > initialization of modems, but in the updated version there is no such
>> > file(as far as I can find), and I dont see anywhere else where
>> AT-Command
>> > are used. Does anyone knows how these commands are used then in the
>> updated
>> > version ?
>>
>>        NetworkManager >= 0.8 uses ModemManager for low level configuration
>> such
>> as AT commands.
>>
>> --
>> Lamarque V. Souza
>> http://www.geographicguide.com/brazil.htm
>> Linux User #57137 - http://counter.li.org/
>> http://planetkde.org/pt-br
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*Junaid Naseer**

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