Sure.  I've forward this request, as well as a request for full
documentation of all the $NW commands to Novatel.
-Jason

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Dan Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 13:51 -0400, Jason Glasgow wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Dan Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
> >         On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 15:45 +0200, Aleksander Morgado wrote:
> >         > Hey hey,
> >         >
> >         > > > Supported and Allowed modes are modified to be bitmasks
> >         of MM_MODEM_MODE values,
> >         > > > and preference of a specific mode is now given in the
> >         new PreferredMode
> >         > > > property and as an extra argument to the
> >         SetAllowedModes() call.
> >         > > >
> >         > > >  * Supported Modes: bitmask specifying which modes are
> >         supported by the specific
> >         > > > hardware. For example, a modem may only support 1G/2G/3G
> >         connections (not 4G).
> >         > > >
> >         > > >  * Allowed Modes: bitmask specifying which modes, of the
> >         ones Supported by the
> >         > > > modem, are allowed to use. For example, a modem may
> >         support 1G/2G/3G connections
> >         > > > but only 1G and 2G connections are allowed by the user
> >         as 3G involves more
> >         > > > expensive data rates.
> >         > > >
> >         > > >  [Allowed] ⊆ [Supported]
> >         > > >
> >         > > >  * Preferred Mode: specific mode which is preferred
> >         among the ones defined in
> >         > > > the Allowed modes bitmask. For example, a modem may
> >         allow 1G/2G/3G connections
> >         > > > but the user would like that if possible 2G be used, as
> >         3G consumes too much
> >         > > > battery. If 2G is not possible, 3G can be used.
> >         > > >
> >         > > >  [Preferred] ∈ [Allowed]
> >         > >
> >         > > I don't have a huge objection to this, but I'm not sure I
> >         see the
> >         > > benefit of having the Preferred/Allowed split versus the
> >         complexity.
> >         > > Basically, if Allowed were an enum where we enumerated the
> >         preference
> >         > > there are 4 items to choose from (4G, 3G, 2G, empty) and 3
> >         slots in the
> >         > > preference order (since empty doesn't get a slot, just a
> >         single enum).
> >         > > Thats a total of 25 combinations, but some like 2G>4G
> >         don't really make
> >         > > sense, so we have somewhere under 25.  32-bits gives us a
> >         lot of range
> >         > > there if it's an enum not a bitfield.  The downside is
> >         that it has no
> >         > > relationship with the MM_MODEM_MODE flags.  My worry is
> >         just that it's
> >         > > added complexity (3 properties to check instead of 2) that
> >         may be just a
> >         > > bit more work for clients.
> >         > >
> >         >
> >         > I do see problems in both implementations, and I understand
> >         that the new
> >         > one may be more complex, but trying to cope with the
> >         addition of 4G to
> >         > the list is not an easy task, I would say.
> >
> >
> >         Yeah, I know.
> >
> >         > It would be good to check what modes the new LTE devices
> >         support. Is
> >         > there anyone out there who can check this? Do the devices
> >         support
> >         > specifying 'preferred' modes to automatically connect in one
> >         mode or
> >         > another?
> >
> >
> >         Unfortunately I don't have any information on this, we'd have
> >         to ask
> >         contacts at Novatel, Sierra, Qualcomm, etc what the plans are
> >         here if we
> >         can.  Qualcomm chips do have the ability to select a different
> >         "mode
> >         preference", and as far as I can tell from the reverse
> >         engineering we've
> >         done, it's a gigantic enum for every mode conceivable because
> >         they
> >         include stuff like WiFi in there too.  Think stuff like
> >         CDMA/AMPS/HDR/WLAN-only (ie 2G/1G/3G/Wifi only) as a distinct
> >         value from
> >         HDR/LTE only (ie 3G/4G only).  And values for things like
> >         "anything
> >         except WiFi".  So you can bet they've added a bunch more
> >         options to that
> >         enum for LTE.
> >
> >         > Also, do the 4G devices support complex setups like "3G
> >         preferred, and
> >         > if not available go 4G" or "3G preferred, and if not
> >         available go 2G".
> >         > As a user, I think I can find good reasons to need these
> >         last two
> >         > options, not just "3G preferred".
> >
> >
> >         Yeah, that's the question... not sure we have an answer yet.
> >          But I
> >         guess it would be good to be able to do this since we aren't
> >         sure.
> >
> > I am trying to figure out some more details on what the Novatel E362
> > supports.  I'll report back to the list.
>
> I had that thought too, and looked at the patches, but oddly the patches
> don't handle LTE at all.  It simply uses $NWRAT and only allows setting
> the allowed mode to "GSM preferred", "WCDMA preferred", or "any", which
> isn't quite right.  Can you ask if there are other modes that NWRAT
> allows, like restricting to LTE-only, or 3G-preferred?  This was another
> question I had here, given that I thought the E362 was a multi-mode
> device (ie, LTE + CDMA + UMTS); using WCDMA for this seems wrong.  Sigh.
> Still have to reply to the patch.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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