On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 11:34 +0000, John Frankish wrote:
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: John Frankish
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, 25 April, 2014 17:41
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > Subject: networkmanager-0.9.8.9 will not connect to wifi with
> > > > > > > non-broadcast ssid
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've been trying to connect to a wap that does not broadcast
> > > > > > > the ssid for a while without success.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Using the same setup with wpa_supplicant manually works using
> > > > > > > the wpa_supplicant.conf below.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After some more checking I can confirm that
> > > > > > networkmanager/network-
> > > > > manager-applet will connect to a wap that does broadcast the ssid,
> > > > > which seems to confirm that the issue is with wap that do not 
> > > > > broadcast the ssid.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've just verified that I can do both a new connection and a
> > > > > reconnection to a hidden-SSID access point here with 0.9.8.10,
> > > > > though with WEP not WPA (which shouldn't be an issue).  From your 
> > > > > logs:
> > > > >
> > > > > NetworkManager[1139]: <info> Config: added 'ssid' value 'bobnet'
> > > > > NetworkManager[1139]: <info> Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1'
> > > > >
> > > > > NetworkManager doesn't store a supplicant config file, because the
> > > > > network blocks are created on-the-fly based on the NM
> > > > > configuration and what you type in, and a config file is pretty
> > > > > useless.  But the logs show what NetworkManager is sending to the
> > > > > supplicant, which is exactly what would be written to the supplicant 
> > > > > config file.
> > > > >
> > > > > So you can see that NM is sending scan_ssid=1.  ap_scan=2 is *not*
> > > > > required for working WiFi drivers.  It's only required for older
> > > > > broken drivers, and for Ad-Hoc mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > NetworkManager[1139]: <info> (eth1): supplicant interface state:
> > > > > inactive -> scanning
> > > > > <30 seconds pass>
> > > > > NetworkManager[1139]: <warn> Activation (eth1/wireless):
> > > > > association took too long, failing activation.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a problem much lower down, either with the AP, or with the
> > > > > supplicant and kernel.  The scanning process for the AP should
> > > > > take anywhere between 1 and 10 seconds, often less than 2 or 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > To debug that, can you grab some detailed wpa_supplicant logs?
> > > > > Run these two commands, and the supplicant should start dumping
> > > > > logs to
> > > > > /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log:
> > > > >
> > > > > sudo dbus-send --system --print-reply
> > > > > --dest=fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1 /fi/w1/wpa_supplicant1
> > > > > org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set string:fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1
> > > > > string:DebugTimestamp variant:boolean:true
> > > > >
> > > > > sudo dbus-send --system --print-reply
> > > > > --dest=fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1 /fi/w1/wpa_supplicant1
> > > > > org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set string:fi.w1.wpa_supplicant1
> > > > > string:DebugLevel variant:string:"msgdump"
> > > > >
> > > > > You should see something like this when you ask NetworkManager to
> > > > > connect, or when NM tries to connect automatically:
> > > > >
> > > > > wlp12s0: State: INACTIVE -> SCANNING Scan SSID -
> > > > > hexdump_ascii(len=8)
> > > > >     66 6f 6f 62 61 72 32 32    foobar22
> > > > > ...
> > > > > nl80211: Scan SSID - hexdump_ascii(len=8)
> > > > >     66 6f 6f 62 61 72 32 32    foobar22
> > > > > ...
> > > > > wlp12s0: BSS: Add new id 15 BSSID <...> SSID 'foobar22'
> > > > >
> > > > Thanks for the suggestion - using wpa_supplicant -dddtu -f 
> > > > /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log produced the attached output.
> > > >
> > > > It's odd that this times out - if I use wpa_supplicant manually it
> > > > connects in
> > > a few seconds as do windows and iOS devices.
> > >
> > > So I see with the manual bits you're setting ap_scan=2 for this network.
> > > Would you mind removing the ap_scan=2 for the manual case and retrying?
> > > Ensure that scan_ssid=1 is still present.  There shouldn't be any need
> > > for
> > > ap_scan=2 with a driver from the past 8 years, so lets just rule that
> > > out for now.
> > >
> > > Also, when you're trying with NetworkManager, are you deleting the
> > > existing stored connection and re-creating it?  Or are you waiting for
> > > NM to start the existing stored connection?
> > >
> > > There are two ways NM handles connections to hidden networks:
> > >
> > > 1) after the original connection is created, NM caches the
> > > BSSID<->SSID mapping of the hidden AP. If that AP is found in a later
> > > scan, NM fills in the SSID and then it's able to connect automatically
> > >
> > > 2) When connecting to a hidden network from the UI, the
> > > UI/nm-applet/etc should be setting the "hidden" flag on the stored
> > > connection. This causes NetworkManager to request that the supplicant
> > > probe-scan that SSID, which makes the AP announce itself, and thus the
> > > SSID is available.  This is more-or- less what you're doing with the
> > > manual supplicant runs where you set scan_ssid=1.
> > >
> > > When NM is running, could you:
> > >
> > > 1) nmcli con
> > > 2) find the stored connection ID for bobnet (which is the
> > > human-readable name, not the long hex UUID)
> > > 3) nmcli con list id "<ID of stored connection for bobnet>" | grep -i
> > > hidden
> > >
> > > And lets see what we get...  If hidden is not set, then we should set
> > > it, and that should get the probe-scanning working correctly.  This
> > > should result in the supplicant debug logs showing:
> > >
> > > 1399026688.003160: nl80211: Scan probed for SSID 'bobnet'
> > 
> > I tried to connect manually with wpa_supplicant without "ap_scan=2", but it
> > would not connect in five or six attempts. As soon as I added "ap_scan=2"
> > back, it connected first time.
> > 
> > The only way to get my wifi hardware to work is by using the Broadcom wl
> > driver:
> > 
> > $ dmesg | grep Hybrid
> > eth1: Broadcom BCM4359 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 5.100.82.112
> > 
> > $ lsmod
> > ...
> > 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n
> > 
> > http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
> > hybrid-portsrc_x86_64-v5_100_82_112.tar.gz
> > 
> > $ uname -a
> > Linux boxdell 3.8.13-tinycore64 #777 SMP Fri Oct 18 15:13:45 UTC 2013 x86_64
> > GNU/Linux
> > 
> > ..so it is definitely not 8 years old.
> > 
> > Trying to connect to a Cisco WAP4410N
> > 
> > As tinycorelinux is analogous to a live CD distribution (the file system is
> > copied to RAM on boot), nothing is saved between boots, so the
> > networkmanager wifi connection is re-created each time when I try to use
> > network-manager-applet to connect to a hidden network.
> > 
> > $ nmcli con list id bobnet | grep hidden
> > 802-11-wireless.hidden:                 no
> > 
> > ..but I cannot find a way to change this to "yes" - "nm-connection-editor"
> > does not show the "hidden" parameter and if I edit system-
> > connections/bobnet to read as follows:
> > 
> > [802-11-wireless]
> > ssid=bobnet
> > mac-address=64:27:37:22:AB:51
> > security=802-11-wireless-security
> > hidden=yes
> > 
> > .."hidden=yes" seems to be ignored, so how do I change it?
> > 
> > Thanks for the continuing support
> 
> I just noticed that I was not using the most recent Broadcom wl driver - 
> after compiling the most recent driver (6.30.223.141) things now work.
> 
> wpa_supplicant will connect manually without "ap_scan=2" and 
> network-manager-applet will also connect.

Good to know.

>  However, "nmcli con list id" still shows "hidden=no"

The hidden=no is simply a hint that NetworkManager should ask the
supplicant to probe-scan for the network, which will speed up subsequent
connections to some degree.  If things are working, I would say don't
bother setting it.

Dan

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