Hi,

On Sat, 2017-12-30 at 17:27 +0100, Mleman wrote:
> NetworkManager 1.10 introduced a breaking change by making
> dhcp=internal 
> the default instead of dhclient. Many distros pushed out NM 1.10 
> obviously without being aware of that change. Lots of users are 
> reporting issues with their wifi connection etc. in support forums
> and 
> lots of guesswork is happening about what is the cause.

The default plugin is decided by your distribution when building
NetworkManager. That didn't change in 1.10 release. If such a change
was done by your distribution and is unwanted, report a downstream bug.

For example, Fedora didn't move away from dhclient, nor is it likely to
do that any time soon. Because dhclient supports additional
configuration from various locations like /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, and
changing the default might break working installations on upgrade. Of
course, that makes it problematic to ever change the default, which is
a problem... On the other hand, if somebody relies on a particular DHCP
plugin to be used, it might be resonable to require the user to
explicitly configure it in NetworkManager.conf. This decision has to be
made by your distribution.

> As for the general issue of not properly working internal DHCP
> client: 
> for me the only notable symptom is simple a timeout after 45sec when 
> waiting for an IP. This happens on different machines with different 
> network hardware and on wifi as well as on LAN. I have put my logs
> on 
> pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/rQQbUrkv

The internal DHCP client is supposed to work well. Hence, your report
is relevant (thanks). But there is not enough information in the
logfile. Please consider providing a logfile with level=TRACE debug
logging. See the hints at
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/contrib/fedora/rpm/NetworkManager.conf


best,
Thomas

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