Yeah, getting out of the office and out to a real site helps, especially 
when the site's sucking eggs and needs fixing. 8^) That's how I usually 
get a dose of that old religion/reality these days.

I think there are a few actual webmasters still on the list.

Ask? Graham?

The clueful pleas for help with httpd are good for ataying current.

On Thursday, April 12, 2001, at 04:54 AM, Harrie Hazewinkel wrote:

> Jim Winstead wrote:
> [snip]
>> i don't mean to stir up a hornet's nest with this, but something
>> i realized recently is that the balance of people contributing to
>> apache httpd development and maintenance has shifted over time from
>> people who actively run websites to people who develop software. i
>> think it has caused some interesting changes in what people consider
>> important. (i'm not trying to pass any judgement on those changes,
>> although just by bringing it up, i suspect i have.)
>
> I agree. Even though I have not much operational experience.
> Walking around in the network management area some time,
> certain things are done a certain way. It does not really matter
> why and how, but knowing the way people use it makes a
> real difference.
>

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