I understand this, and I did work with the CoCo III.  Fun!  However, I 
think that a lot of the 'M$' 'Windoze' etc. is mostly blowing off 
steam.  I would think that most of the people who work in the field, 
and, in fact, anyone who has to deal with others with Windows machines 
realize that it has some very strong points.  The biggest being that 
almost anyone can use it.  Linux still takes a little work, and that's 
one of the reasons I love it.

Windoze isn't going away, but maybe, just maybe, our diparaging of it, 
and our refusal to use it unless forced (in many cases) will cause 
good ol' Uncle Bill to start hiring real programmers and set realistic 
deadlines and put out software that works the FIRST time.

After all, if you think he doesn't watch the competition (via our own 
mailing listes etc.) you're nuts. 

My 0.02 worth.

-- 
Ty Mixon
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:    26147713

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 8/24/99, 12:15:50 PM, "Ken Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
regarding [newbie] Just a bit of Professionalism:


> <Soapbox Mode On>
> I realize many of us are switching to Linux due to what we percieve as
> shortcoming of other operating systems, Windows in particular it 
seems.
> Even though we all have our pieves with Microsoft for whatever reason
> does it really add any credibility to what we have to say if we can 
only
> refer to the aformentioned company in a slanderous way, i.e. Windoze.

> I put this to you, would you be happy campers if someone kept 
referring
> to your favourite distribution of Linux as Manduck?

> I am currently working in both worlds, Windows and Linux.  I have 
tried
> two flavours of Linux, RedHat 5.2 and now Mandrake 6.0  I have lived
> with various operating systems from MS-DOS 3.3, through Windows 3.1 to
> Windows 95.  If you want a real slug of an operating system try a 
Radio
> Shack Color Computer II running OS9.  They all had one thing in 
common,
> they were operating systems for a computer and all had their strong
> points and weak points in their given venue.

> Whether we like Bill Gates and his strong arm marketing tactics and/or
> the fact that some of his programmers couldn't program a toaster with
> with both hands and a library of manuals is irrelevant.  It was 
through
> his effort and those at IBM that we had the explosion of computers
> available for home and business desktops.

> I work in both worlds right now because I am in the process of 
studying
> to be a professional in the IT business.  I find both sytems provide 
me
> with two ways of looking at a problem. And, the reality is, when I go
> out to work as a consultant, programmer or whatever I realize that
> market constraints and position will probably dictate that I will have
> to be competent with Microsoft and the various flavours of unices.

> My apologies to those who understand that you can hang on to your
> beliefs without belittling the efforts of the other guy.  This wasn't
> meant for you.

> <Soapbox Mode Off>

> Ken Wilson
> First Law of Optimization: The speed of a nonworking program is
> irrelevant
> (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')


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