I really don't want to argue this point but I will say one thing. I have
both Red hat 6 and Caldera 2.2. I have not updated either of them and both
run fine. Not so with Mandrake 6 which has serious internal problems that
require fixing right away.
Jeanette
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Philp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] File System not unmounting cleanly check forced
> Jeanette Russo wrote:
> >
> > I can't believe I have to install a kernel in my brand new install to
fix
> > this. I have no idea how to do this. I just Mandrake Soft should have
> > fixed this in the boxed versions. This problem has been out for a long
time
> > and now I wasted $39 time and effort on Mandrake 6.0. How could this
> > possibly be the most bug free version on Linux when you have to replace
the
> > kernal right after you install it.
>
> Oh, give me a break.
>
> It's a download and ten minutes of your time. Would you prefer a broken
> kernel and the fsck-on-reboot problem you've got now? I know I'd just
> bite the bullet and grab the download.
>
> Don't think that any of the other distributions are any better. A
> kernel is trivial compared to the 140M worth of updates Red Hat has
> issued against their 6.0 effort. Debian's last official release ships
> with 2.0.34 and an X distribution that hasn't been current for quite
> awhile. I don't recall Caldera's 2.2 (their latest) having any small
> amount of updates either, a kernel was included there too. Slackware
> STILL doesn't ship with libc6, something that's shipped with other
> distributions for at least a couple versions.
>
> Mandrake (and all other distributors that I'm aware of) release a
> distribution with a version number. Updates to that version don't
> typically get streamlined into the retail packages. Think of the
> support nightmares that would cause! Just because Microsoft feels the
> need to support 3 versions of Win95 and 2 versions of Win98 doesn't mean
> everyone else should take on that burden! 6.0 means 6.0 means 6.0. Not
> 6.0 + some unknown set of updates.
>
> You probably could have saved yourself about $30 and bought a
> distribution from a vendor that slipped the updates into their burned
> discs. I posted yesterday about LSL releasing a new "updates" CD that
> carries the various items that have been released since the official
> releases of the major distributions. I don't recall the price, but it
> wasn't very expensive. If you feel it's too much effort to download the
> update, pick up the CD.
>
> You've been reading this list for FAR too long to claim that these
> kernel updates were "sprung" on you. The issue has been known for quite
> a while. Didn't you account for that when you bought your copy? If you
> knew it was a problem, why didn't you ask the vendor if they included
> available updates on their CD?
>
> Sorry, but you've hit my "whining" threshold...
>
> --
> Steve Philp
> Network Administrator
> Advance Packaging Corporation
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
