On Wednesday 03 July 2002 11:08 am, you wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "et" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Strange crashes when idle
>
> > are you running out of swap? disk space? (when I run out of space in
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> /home,
>
> > often the first place I notice is hitting a menu item in a browser) do
> > you have an append statement in /etc/lilo.conf that says mem=465? (or
> > some
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> number
>
> > that subtracts the  "shared video memory" amount from total system ram
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> ie.;
>
> > 512 - 32 = 470 and I add a couple a megs to be sure it really had 512 to
> > start)
> >
> > On Wednesday 03 July 2002 05:06 am, you wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pippin Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 5:39 AM
> > > Subject: [newbie] Strange crashes when idle
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if I consider myself a newbie, having run linux of some
>
> sort
>
> > > > for about three years, but I don't consider myself an expert, so here
>
> I
>
> > > > am.
> > > >
> > > > My problem is unfortunately hard to describe, and what I'm really
>
> looking
>
> > > > for is ideas for establishing what the problem might be.
> > > >
> > > > Basically, I installed Mandrake 8.2 a few days ago, and it's crashed
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> once
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> > > > or twice a day since then. I was tolerating it, until this morning's
> > > > crash when my root partition was damaged. Now I want to get to the
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> bottom
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> > > > of it.
> > > >
> > > > When it's crashed I can see that my CPU meter is suggest a very high
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> CPU
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> > > > load (around 4 lines high on a standard xload meter). Various things
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> lock
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> > > > up, generally my web browser. I'm suspicious of mozilla/galeon at
> > > > present, but don't really know for sure.
> > > >
> > > > Eventually the whole thing dies, and I can ctrl-alt-F1 etc to get to
> > > > a shell, but if I run anything (like pine) the whole thing stops, and
> > > > eventually I can't do anything (like login from another prompt). At
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> that
>
> > > > point I have to reset my computer...
> > > >
> > > > As I said, this morning the disk was damaged by this, and I had to
> > > > manually run fsck to fix it up. Annoying.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone experience similar weird problems?
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to try not running any mozilla based browsers for a while,
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> to
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> > > > see if that helps at all. I'll let you know if it does.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any help you can offer me!
> > > >
> > > > Pippin Barr
> > >
> > > Hi Pippin Barr,
> > >
> > > I'm Having a very similar problem here also.. but haven't yet been able
>
> to
>
> > > figure out what exactly is causing the problem.  I've tried several
> > > suggestions ( differen video board/ settings) Mouse settings etc. all
> > > to
>
> no
>
> > > avail.. My Machine Crashes almost always while trying to download web
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> pages
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> > > or mail.  does not seem to matter what Brower or email client I'm
>
> using..
>
> > > It Crashes with mozzila , opera, konquerer equally as well.  Please if
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> you
>
> > > should find out the cure post it to the group so others that may be
>
> having
>
> > > the same problems can benifit.
> > >
> > > Also it may help to list your machines equipment parameters so others
>
> can
>
> > > see if it's the same chipset video or something else smimilar.
> > >
> > > My Machine is has a SIS 730s Chip set AmD Athlon 950Mhz Proc. 512 MB
> > > Ram with 32 MB share with video Card.
> > >
> > > someone help us..
> > >
> > > have a nice day
> > > Dave
>
> Yes I have the append statement mem=480M
>
> and I have 980M swap space I think but I will check that out today ..
> thanks
> dave
>
>
>
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512-32 = 480 
maybe add a few more megs to be on the safe side, I have noticed some boxes 
with 2, 256 meg strips may count as 510megs ram or 516 megs ram. not sure 
why, but with that much ram, why chance it.  (512-[32+6]=_474_, and then make 
sure you run /sbin/lilo after editing lilo.conf. you sure ain't likly to be 
running out of swap.


true enough about heat, probly the most common cause of truly "random" 
lockups especially if you include broke CPU fans in the "heat" catagory, 
however taking the sides off, while an acceptable temporary test method, in 
the long term the dust buildup and static charge acssoceated with the dust 
makes it not to good in the long run (IMHO). best to get enough air running 
thru the case with added fans and heatsinks. removing the side covers often 
does not really improve the airflow around the CPU, kinda like taking the 
shroud off the radiator in the car because you have too many bugs in the 
radiator to get air thru. Believe i or not, there may have even been some 
thought to the design of the case that directs flow from the front of the 
case towards the back. blowing the dust off the cards and boards and fans 
once in a while is not a bad idea either. and do use some heatsink grease 
when you install a cpu fan. not a lot (a dab is plenty, the stuff has legs 
and will get everywhere [like your good shirt in the closet] anyway)

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