Joe Harkins wrote:

> First of all, a thanks to all those who offered suggestions. It's 
> comforting to know that dumb but sincere questions are given respect 
> and sensible responses. 

By the way joe never ,never appologise for not knowing something, we 
are/were all beginners sometime.

>
>
> Now for John Richard Smith, please note that out of great appreciation 
> for your on-target advice, I have personally spoken to George 
> Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin. They have asked that 
> you convey to Lord North, General Howe and especially His Majesty King 
> George that we regret the recent unpleasantness. I for one concur on 
> the condition that I be granted on one dinner date with Fergie. 

O goodness me,
At least you have retained your sense of humour.

>
>
> John, you were right as to the issue being related to memory. 

Although it can be a factor  your 128mb ought to be enough to run 
mandrake8.0
to desktop and fiddle around. I only question this because if you want 
to set your computer to do something that requires processing power and 
memory, then 128mb of physical memory aint a lot these days. Do you have 
a /swap partition.
It sound like you may not. swap partitions are linux equivelant of 
windows virtual memory they make a place for the computer to page out of 
physical memory all those loaded apps and things that are not actually 
required for computing the task in hand  until that task is finished, 
whereupon the data is returned to physical memory.
See if you don't have a /swap partition and you have just 128mb of ram 
it is a question mark.
Anyway if you can buy yourself another stick of memory

>
>
> After I partitioned the drive to your specs (using the M8 partitioner 
> in Reccomended mode) I did a graphic install of M8 on "/". I only 
> installed 338K, that is, hardly anything more than KDE's required 295K.
>
> Yes, the sys still crashed after the penguin smear. But I was able to 
> reboot through the BootLoader. At the auto-login prompt I kept my 
> pudgies to myself and after a pause of about 7 to10 seconds, the sys 
> booted into the First Time screen.
>
> I looked around and then got brave. I could not figure how to add the 
> other available software (a word processor, spreadsheet, PDF reader, 
> graphics manipulators, etc.) so I shut down and went back to the M8 
> installer again and did a re-install. This time I selected the items I 
> wanted. They totaled about 700K.
>
> Of course, that install failed, and did so in the same manner as the 
> previously frustrating problems - crashing as soon as I configured the 
> modem connnefcion - and displaying that "missing memory" message. That 
> confirmed to me that the size of the installation was the issue that 
> cause the previous installs of a similar size to fail even though the 
> dialogs indicated there is plenty of space beyond that
>
> So I went back and did yet another install. I repeated the one that 
> worked, (KDE only) and it went fine.
>
> Then I recalled an earlier posting about the Software Manager - and I 
> learned how to use that. I installed most of the items I wanted. And 
> the sys slowed down a bit and did one or two strange things but is 
> appear pretty stable. I say "pretty stable" because I did have one 
> total hang while I was fooling with the desktop configuration. Had to 
> throw the switch to get out but after rebooting, have had no problems.
>
> Except a weird one.
>
> While I was doing that desktop configuration, the screen display of my 
> monitor changed. The "picture" shrank on this 19" monitor, leaving me 
> about an inch and a half black border on top, bottom and left sides. 
> The display was shifted to the right edge. But when I looked at WIN 
> XP, the display was normal.
>
> So I went back to M8. I used the monitor's front panel digital 
> controls to resize the horizontal and vertical display and re-center 
> it. After that I increased the default font size to one more 
> comfortable for these 70 year old eyes.
>
> The Mandrake display is now perfect. And the WIN XP display remains 
> exactly the same as I have always had it. 

Each OS saves it's own display setting.

>
>
> Wouldn't you think that the monitor front panel controls would affect 
> both OSs in the same manner?  Apparently, something is telling the 
> monitor to remember the correct settings for each OS.
>
> I am still using WIN at the moment and will do so until I finish 
> configuring the M8 email client and learn to use it. But I like what 
> I've seen of M8 so far. The range of choices and tweaks is amazing. 
> It's like having a brand new computer.
>
> By the way, John. If the deal to get a date with Fergie needs a 
> sweetener, can we talk about sending you back Liz Taylor.
>
> Regards and many thanks,
> Joe Harkins
>
I would like to have you install everything on the mandrake discs except 
the server software. So that you can see everything.
John

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