On Tuesday 16 Jul 2002 9:55 pm, you wrote:
> > anne      4391  0.0  0.1  1792  596 pts/1    R    10:06   0:00 grep
> > jabber
>
> A single grep output like that indicates no jabber running.
>
> > I didn't think this was there - I don't use an instant messenger.
>
> And as I pointed out, I'm not sure it's something that gets installed
> by default, although it is known to cause problems.

OK - I think we can rule this out, then.

>
> > Logout appears to stop X briefly and then goes straight back to the KDE
> > login.  There i s a long black screen delay before switching to the KDE
> > login
>
> I see, so then you start up in KDE by default (aka init 5) rather than
> the other way. I always have elected to boot up to a virtual console,
> login, and then start X from there. Either way, however you logout will
> restart at least some processes, and perhaps free up any memory leaks
> in those processes.

When I was having problems with aRts I found that hang-up enabled me to log 
in without the problem.  If I didn't hang up when I got the problem it was 
always there at the fresh log in, and even after a boot, as though it was 
being remembered similar to restoring sessions.

>
> > desktop - almost a minute - and the panel and restoring session icons are
> > there a very long time, too.
>
> Loading the desktop is a fairly complicated process - there is a lot
> of processes to start up. Even on my machine (Athlon 1ghz with 256
> megs) it takes a while.
>
> > It does seem to be X, I think, as once a Konsole is opened it responds
> > fast enough, and so does text editor.
>
> Opening an instance of konsole takes about 2 seconds from mouse click on
> menu to the full window here - I just tried it. I'd surmise that's normal,
> and right now my system is fairly lightly loaded. Opening a new Konqueror
> instance takes perhaps eight seconds, from clicking on the home icon on the
> panel to full display and directory list (and my $HOME is full of stuff).
> I'd also surmise that as normal - times much longer than that would not
> be normal.
>
Your timings seem about what I was getting up to a couple of days ago.

> If the slowness is unique to one program (konqueror, for instance) then
> we might be able to narrow it down, such as some 'net access that is
> hanging, or otherwise slow. Running strace sometimes gives clues, but
> it's not for the 'average' user. It also could be a misstuck icon --
> for example, knode <icon> when pressed here takes a very long time,
> with the "running" splat thing going on and off, and no window pops up,
> but running "knode &" from Konsole is more or less instantaneous. I
> haven't really looked to fix the icon issue. (Incidentally, I am using
> new 3.0.2 rpms from ftp.kde.org.)

Getting Konsole up is very slow, and launching komba2 from the Konsole is 
also slow (but I can't remember for certain how long that took before the 
problem).  Certainly clicking on the shell icon used to be fast.  Starting 
top is fast enough, too, with a second or two delay only.

>
> If it's nearly everything that's slow, such as keyboard input into a
> konsole, or right click on desktup, etc., then soemthing is really
> amiss. That would also indicate that some process is stuck eating up
> nearly all CPU.

Keyboard input is no problem.  Moving around with a word processor, for 
instance, is no problem.  It's anything that requires loading time.

>
> >  10:10am  up 13:12,
>
> OK - and how long was it before you noticed it got really slow, or did
> this happen pretty much from restart?
>
> > Anne

This was after an attempt to solve the problem.  I had run for a week or so 
at at time, over about 2 months, without problem.  This whole thing started 
when I first posted about it.  After the reboot mentioned above I found it 
immediately just as bad.  It did get a bit better, though, eventually.  I 
minute load times dropped to about 20 seconds.

After trying the solutions suggested by Civileme I was again back to nearly 1 
minute load times, but again that has eventually dropped to about 20 seconds. 
 This seems to take a few hours to happen, but then it doesn't seem to get 
any better.  I have now been up 1 day 3:13.

Anne

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