On Saturday July 27 2002 02:14 pm, Alastair Scott wrote:
> On Saturday 27 Jul 2002 7:55 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > Cooker/9.0 is very dynamic now (ie, beta2 [current cooker] isn't
> > compatible with 9.0beta1). Many gcc (-> 3.2) and lib changes. I'd
> > say only a fresh install is feasible. Further, It'sME that savin
> What I did was:
>
> - - reboot to the command line and move .kde and .kde3 to .kde_82 and
> .kde3_82
>
> - - keep everything else in /home unchanged and unmoved
Well, I'm one the idiots (you'll find many like me who are also
Mandrake cooker desktop users/active particpants, some developers) who
install to one big ol' / , and backup our /home directory every
once'nwhile to a separate out'a the way partition. Then after a
complete fresh install (which includes wiping /home), we can recover
(ie, copy in) old settings, files, configs, personal stuff and such
... a little at a time, making sure things don't break, taking note of
that which inevitably does.
You're correct in that 9.0 kde is now in /.kde and not /.kde3 or
/opt/kde<whatever>, so a separate and saved /home partition from 8.x
will most likely break a 9.0 install in many ways, specially a 8.x
version 'upgraded' to kde3 <from where ever>. Hell's bells, a saved
/home from one 9.0 release (ie, current cooker) to the next can cause
problems.
> - - put the first CD in the drive, reboot and install 9.0 beta 1,
> formatting / and /swap but not /home
>
> - - once installed boot to Gnome 2 and move things from .kde3_82 into
> .kde3 ad lib
>
> - - then reboot to KDE 3.
I admire your persistence to save the home an' hearth ;) First, IMO,
current 9.0 KDE3.0.2 is much better than any of the available 'KDE3.x'
upgrades for 8.x. As is Gnome2, so why try'n save the old 8.x shi..
err.... I mean stuff ?
>
> Because KDE 3 is now the default version, so has moved from /opt as
> installed with 8.2, I think trying to upgrade while keeping .kde and
> .kde3 intact is too risky (possibility of lots of paths in
> configuration files breaking) ...
>
> Alastair
You make my point for me Alastair. Just where are .kde* dirs
located, if not under /home? So, 'A fresh install including a new
/home is always the better option, often less time consumming and
better results than a (theoretically maybe possible) upgrade. 'Sides,
it's probly time to do some house cleanin anyhow ;)'
The persistent idea of tryin to maintain a stale old cruffty /home
partition or directory is an idea as ... well as persistent as Linux
needs to take over the desktop. I don't understand the thinkin ;) All
I can ask is ... why? Not practical. Specially since all of 9.0 is now
built against newer libs, gcc 3.2, etc., as are the included and
contrib apps .... than even beta1 was (which is 3.1.1), ..... much less
any old cruffty 8.x install (gcc 2.9.x, older glibc, kernel, etc.).
BUT, original question was upgrade or fresh install 9.0b1?
IMO, a complete fresh install .... including /home. <!period!>
....and as I've often opined, if you care to venture forward, y'all
should also _lurk_ (don't kibitz, it's not for support or general
discussion) on the cooker mailing list (change log list too). At least
read the current archives. Then I'd encourage anyone to 'come along
and sing the song an' join the jamborree' ;)
M..I..C .. K...D...E...
BTW, cheap 9.0 CD's
http://www.opensoars.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=73
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