John,
I have a question for you, how much would YOU pay a geek? $9.00/hr,
perhaps?
Of course a geek doesn't need sunshine right? Yes I live in a cave,
yes I can setup a Linux distro in a short time, yes I do all my office apps
under Linux, yes I ONLY touch a windows box when I HAVE too, yes I also play
with FreeBSD, I have also used OS/2 Warp, and Mac OS 7.x, 8.x, 9.x, and OS
X, I have also administered Main/Mini frames BEFORE I began working on Micro
computers (PC's), and I have worked on Unix boxes such as Solaris, SCO,
HP-UX, Unisys, AIX, and a few others.
All this and I am NOT a geek. I am a 6'3" 200lb bruiser with an
attitude, who likes to lurk in the background listening to the REAL geeks
talk about problems that they have, and learn how they solve them. If you
would listen a little as well, perhaps you would see that it only a few rare
people who can not set up a Linux box.
Or maybe I am a geek, a non-standard geek. I would consider that
the greatest of compliments, to be called a geek, because I obviously can do
something that you cannot. Oh btw, I am also a Windows admin, so I DO know
both sides of the story, and I prefer Linux/Unix, and I have made it work
quite well in a "business-workable format". Maybe you should hire me, but I
am afraid that I would have to charge an ID10T like you quite a bit more
than $9.00/hr, perhaps more than you could afford. :)
If my message appears offensive to you, then so be it, I found your
message to be far ruder in comments to the intellect on the people on this
list, and far more abusive in nature. Speaking of reading lists, you should
perhaps read more on the subject of "undocumented features" from MS Windows,
reference BUGS, easter eggs, GPF's, and B.S.O.D. If you've ever had to
spend a weekend reloading a server because it had performed a GPF, and lost
the ntldr file, then you would know why Linux is a better and often more
stable solution for corporate America.
Thank you for taking the time to read this, but I still have work to
do.
Civilme I have enjoyed reading you bits of wisdom, as I have lurked,
I wish you luck in your future endeavors.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Rigby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Civilme petition - PETITION???.
At 11:14 AM 31/07/02, you did spake with authority
>John Rigby wrote:
>
>Linux is still a ^%$#$%^&*&^^ of a product to install and setup in a
>business-workable format.
>----------------------------------
>
>John, I am tired of hearing you say this. I have no idea of what problems
>you have (please don't bother telling me).
>
>I have a dual boot machine with Mandrake 8.2 and (sort of) Win 98.
>Mandrake installed without a wrinkle and has remained stable. Win 98 was a
>struggle to get video and modem (external) to work. Furthermore when that
>decorated soldier - Gen Fault - salutes the reboot loses the video driver
>and it is another fight to get it setup properly.
I *KNOW* what that is - not a big problem under windoze.... any novice help
list will show you how :_)
Look, frankly who cares what *you* think?
This was part of a serious offer to help a young fellow in a difficult
circumstance and you whine about something nonsensical !
All I can say is:
READ *THIS* LIST!
The complaints by volume and extent here are ferocious, considering most
people here fancy themselves as at least partial geeks - they LIKE playing
with things.
I can't even understand the questions! :-)
There is no point in continually shooting at the messenger!
LINUX *IS* a &^*%$$%&^ to set up.
READ THIS VERY LIST - and it is only *one* of dozens.
Even *you* are still running W98!!!
As for not seeing both sides - I even once used an Apple!
No, the big money in Linux is in finding the RARE, rare person who is a
geek and can get it all to go - not in MONTHS but a day.
I have never, ever met one myself, but I live in the sunshine............
If I could have found one hirable person who could demonstrate that they
could get Linux to run in a business situation easily - NOTE: real world
business situation - I would have started a Computer business again this
year - even here in paradise, there is a lot of easy(?) money to be made.
The catch was, the only two competent people I eventually found were
already self-employed and making a motza - often by throwing out MS$
systems and setting up hybrids - O.S. Linux and decent (and familiar)
programs running under Win4lin or whatsitsname.
I have recently installed test runs of Linux distros that DO work, several
times, but the problems with useful programs/utilities show it to be long
way off everyday user value to do it without expert assistance, yet.
Again, people, I am not anti-anything except bigots and fanatics.
I think Linux is the only hope of stopping Big Bill's juggernaut. Well,
slowing it a little, anyway. :-)
But, the current hope is certainly not the Mandrake approach.
I'm not even sure if anyone else will now be able to catch the
Lindows rabbit. Boy! Those people know how to market!
Boy! They listened to what the market wants/needs!
Did EXACTLY what I've been saying here and elsewhere for
years..................
Again, please stop shooting at the messenger - learn to look at things in
an adult way. Don't be afraid of new/different information. THAT is how we
all learn.
Those that do advance, anyway.
PEACE!
John Rigby
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