Tom Brinkman wrote:

>On Sunday September 22 2002 05:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
>
>>On Thursday 19 Sep 2002 8:56 pm, you wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:46:37 -0500
>>>
>>>Marcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>lilo append mem=nopentium
>>>
>>Charles, could you tell me more about this?  Is this something that
>>all of us using Athlons/Durons should be using?  Obviously this is
>>there to avoid specific problems, what are they?
>>
>
>    Altho all chipsets and processors have bugs (errata), any 
>manufacturer, AMD, Intel, Cyrix, SiS, VIA, etc., the best way to avoid 
>Athlon or Duron problems is to _only_ use motherboards and power 
>supplies that are recommended by AMD
>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_869_4348,00.html
>
>    That link is for XP's, but there's similar links for Tbirds and 
>Durons. I suspect Marcia's problem probly starts with the PSU and/or 
>motherboard. Ram quality is another likely culprit. Ram performance and 
>reliability is greatly affected by the quality of the mobo and PSU tho.  
>So even very good ram mght have problems on a marginal mobo/PSU. 
>'Course overheating is always a suspect.
>
>    FWIW, I've had a 1.4 Tbird oc'd to 1.55 with an AMD approved mobo 
>and PSU for over a year an a half. Never used the nopentium option, 
>never had any problems. GeF2 w/64mb's usin the open source XFree86 
>driver. The nopentium parameter is to limit the page size requests from 
>system ram for the AGP card.  If the video card has 16mb ram or more 
>onboard, the system ram probly will never, or rarely be used anyhow.  
>If system ram is being used by the Vcard, and causing problems, one 
>quick and dirty way fix is to set the AGP aperature in bios to 4mb. 
>Drawback is that it effectively disables AGP sidebanding and will 
>somewhat decrease 3d/accel performance.
>
>   For more on the AMD/AGP issue see,  
>http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Linux/35/175/7626960/
>   Note: "There *is* an Athlon/AGP issue.  This issue has
>*not* been tied to a bug with the Athlon/Duron processors."
>    ...and...
>"Our conclusion is that the operating system is creating coherency
>problems within the system by creating cacheable translation to AGP
>GART-mapped physical memory." 
>
>   IMO, another suspect is closed source proprietary drivers. As I said, 
>even on a highly oc'd, hot system, I've not had any problems without 
>nopentium usin the openXFree86-4.2.1 source driver which BTW, now 
>provides some 3d/accel support for nvidia cards. XFree86-4.2.1 included 
>with Mdk 9.0. 
>
>
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This is all very interesting to me. By the way how and where exactly 
would I append Lilo with the 'lilo append mem=nopentium'?  I would very 
much like to try this option since I continue to have to reboot to get 
most things working. Would it be worth it for me to get XFree86-4.2.1? I 
know I am not having overheating problems. I have extra cooling. I have 
Windows 95 as a dual boot and it seems to do fine.  I am a newbie still 
and I need exact instructions. Thank you very much for your ideas and 
input.

Sincerely,

Marcia


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