well, to be honest, I have often found that sitting back and expecting "the same" from almost any group works best as far as predicting behavior. as long as "the same" is a long record of attempting excellence within the realm of "Open Source" and/or "GNU", I see no reason to expect any less. I do agree that as far as a powerpack or prosuite, I would hope they could do the math over and figure that they have enough space left on the 3rd cd to make the first 2 isos down to 650 for the pressed and sale versions. I know it would cut into the pool of potential purchasers if the box needs to note that it only runs on computers with a CD reader newer than the last 2 years. that said, why not redo the ISOs and post a location to find them?
On Sunday 06 October 2002 08:15 am, you wrote: > Your welcome, Brian! I'm glad you found what your problem was. Now, what > do you (and I who also have a CD-RW in my Linux 8.2 machine that won't > read 700 MB CDs properly) and the others with this problem do about it? > > It seems that this will be a reoccurring theme until all of us get rid > of our older CD-ROM/DVD-ROM/CD-RW drives. However, this might be a good > opportunity to rally together as a group of users who feel that a change > needs to be made. There's no reason beyond convenience for Mandrake (I > include the very obvious cost factor of burning, packaging and shipping > out one extra CD as part of this) to have any of the distribution disks > larger than 650 MBs. ....At least for a little while longer. Mandrake > would be sympathetic to our needs if they knew that there were enough > users suffering from this problem. If a few of us make our thoughts > known, we might get a second set of ISOs on-line. If a LOT of us make > our needs very real to them, they might even see the logic of > commercially producing a second set of CDS. > > We represent their proud and elite. We make them what they are by our > presence on their listserv, helping users learn to get the most from > their product. Our devoted and dedicated, not to mention the very fact > that we choice their distribution over others, makes us their front > line. They are aware of this, and I'm sure that they care. > However....enough of us have to voice our concerns to make it be known > to them that this is bigger concern than they might have once thought. > Otherwise, things will continue on as they are and those of us with > older drives on our Linux machines will have to buy new drives, find > ways to reverse engineer the ISOs, or install in another way. We > shouldn't have to do this. We shouldn't have to replace a good working > piece of hardware (supported by the distro, at that!) just to install a > newer version. Not yet. Not until our old machines are like 286 > doorstops, I would think. > > Those of you who have been here longer than me must know of a proper way > to make this request in numbers. I urge everyone, even those who are not > plagued with this problem, to band together and let Mandrake know that > we are hurting for change: a very small change that is possible and > manageable. We do it right, with respect, but with an obvious > underlining strength derived from need. > > Now that I have everyone's attention and the word "mutiny" being > murmured is being whispered within the gathered crowd, does anyone have > an productive ideas as to how we should make such a respectful plea to > Mandrake with the greasiest impact possible? > > "All for one, and one for all!" > (Sorry for that...I just recently > watched the movie, "The Musketeer".) :-D > > Rabble-Rousing T
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