On Friday 25 Oct 2002 1:06 am, Robert Delaporte wrote:
> I have seen a couple mentions in news groups comparing urpmi to apt-get.  I
> have debian on my other box just for learning reasons, and I cant see urpmi
> being even close.  I have tried putting different sources on my list, but
> it either cant connect half the time or it cant get the required
> dependacies. Is there anyone with a sample urpmi setup that works well?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob

I have also been playing with Debian recently, and so far my impression has 
been that it is very similar to urpmi.  The debian servers seem to be faster 
responding, probably because they are dedicated servers rather than the 
public servers Mandrake uses. However in terms of managing packages and 
resolving dependencies they seem very similar. 

I think where Mandrake falls down is in not predefining or publishing a set of 
update sources other than the security update source so most users never 
discover what a great tool it is for keeping your system up to date. Also 
some of the public mirrors are truly awful, leading users to assume urpmi is 
not working. I think Mandrake should delete some mirrors from the list and 
perhaps introduce some dedicated servers, at least for Mandrake Club

As for recommendations. Here are the sources I use. The rediris mirror is very 
fast, (but if I keep telling people it soon will not be :)

For Applications in the 9.0 Contrib snapshot
urpmi.addmedia contrib 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/contrib/RPMS with 
./synthesis.hdlist2.cz

For official Mandrake updates
urpmi.addmedia --update updates 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/9.0/RPMS with 
../base/hdlist.cz

For the PLF archive of patented and 'illegal' applications
urpmi.addmedia plf http://www.zoreil.com/mirrors/www.plf.org/9.0 with 
hdlist.cz

For Texstars famous RPMS (see forum on www.pclinuxonline for details)
urpmi.addmedia texstar 
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/rpms
 
with ./hdlist.cz

For commercial apps on Powerpack CDs (club membership required)
urpmi.addmedia mandrake_club 
http://my_username:my_password@;www.mandrakeclub.com/downloads2/comm/9.0/i586 
with ./hdlist.cz

For RPMS made by Club members. (no membership required)
urpmi.addmedia club.contrib 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.0/i586/
 
with ./hdlist.cz 

You should remember to 'update' those sources which are liable to change 
before searching for applications, or else it may not find the dependencies 
it thinks are there. The command
urpmi.update -a 
will update all non-removable media. Putting it into a daily cron job will 
keep you  up to date.

HTH

derek

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