On Saturday 12 October 2002 03:57 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 11 Oct 2002 11:20 pm, you wrote: > > On Friday October 11 2002 01:25 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Friday 11 Oct 2002 8:27 am, you wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 09 October 2002 09:29 pm, you wrote: > > > > > > > > Good Grief people. Why are you upgrading to 9.0 when you have 8.2 > > > > and it works (unless you really want to deal with a new distro's > > > > issues)? New releases always have problems (8.0 probably had the > > > > least of the new ones), and IMO are really NOT for use on my > > > > primary machine. In a month or two it might be ready. > > > > > > Although I have ordered the disks, after reading of the problems I > > > had come to the same conclusion. Of course in the bad old days we > > > accepted that you never buy release x.0 of anything, always wait for > > > x.1, and I guess Mandrake is probably no different. And I totally > > > accept the reasoning you give. > > > > > > Anne > > > > Then you're both have a different approach and understanding than I > > do. IMO, 9.0 is nothin but 8.x upgraded and fixed. 9.1 will be 9.0 > > upgraded and fixed. What falls behind, far as I can tell, is those > > that aren't fixed or upgraded, often hardware, more often users. > > 'Course those two catagories alone account for 95% of most problems in > > the first place. > > > > Every six months when there's a new release, there's always the 5% > > proclaiming that <insert last or older release> was <great/good/ > > better>. This <insert current release> <doesn't work/is worse/not > > ready/rushed/'accept the idea' to not use a '.0 release'/, or sux>. > > So you don't acce[t that the software houses learn from the myriad > installations that are reported to them? > > > Seems all a terrible release has to do for some people, is to age six > > months for users to catch up and begin believin it's the 'best', or at > > least <great/good/better>. So, if you find yourself believin 'every > > body knows', or listen to the rest of the 5%, then wait 5 months to > > install 9.0. For my part I'm already workin/usin 9.0+ > > > > The 'No sound in LM9' situation in Mdk 9.0 is to save the 5% and some > > others, from themselves. ISA devices (most of which are sound cards) > > are no longer automatically probed, and setup. This is mainly caused by > > even more numerous complaints from unknowing users (who are also > > buyers) of substandard, non-compliant, obsolete, or unknown hardware > > (mostly motherboards, sound cards) causing hardware freezes/lockups > > during auto detection. > > I fail to see how you class SoundBlaster Live and Audigy cards as ISA > devices, or as substandard, non-compliant, obsolete or unknown hardware. > > Anne
I don't think the SoundBlaster Live PCI card is one he is refering to. At least from my experience it has been detected and runs fine since 8.2 and took a bit of effort in 8.1 but seems to be good now. Audigy was so new that no drivers were included in the first run of 8.2 or so it seemed, and I don't know if SoundBlaster ever released the Audigy drivers. So I think what he is saying is that the ISA cards are old obsolete architecture and are being phased out. Notice not many new Motherboard designs include ISA slots? My $.02 and probably worth some change back at that. : ) -- Dennis M. linux user #180842
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