On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:00:30AM +0800, Franki wrote:
> The point is that it SHOULDN'T be legal for M$ to have them sign agreements
> like that...

True, but that's a battle I'm unable to fight. The only possible way I
can fight that is by voting for a President that won't appoint a bunch
of whores to the U.S. Department of Justice--unlikely in the current
climate. (I *did* vote in the last presidential election.)

That's why I think it's important to let businesses know that they are
losing sales due to their agreement with MS, that's the only language
they understand: the almighty dollar.

Todd

> in fact, it should be punishably illegal.
> 
> thats like telling GM that all your cars must have firestone tyres if you
> ever plan on having firestone on any of them..
> 
> Its ridiculous and only in the IT industry could it happen.
> 
> 
> rgd
> 
> Frank
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:newbie-owner@;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Todd Slater
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 11:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] I'm getting peeved!
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:45:44PM +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 11:57 am, you wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 21:45, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > at the predictable response from hardware manufacturers.  I don't
> usually
> > > > snap at people like this, but...
> > > >
> > > > Quote
> > > >
> > > > OK - I'll buy a Hauppage card that does.
> > > >
> > > > Anne
> > >
> > > Anne, look - for all intents and purposes, you're swimming upstream
> > > here. Manufacturers don't care about US - they care about money. They
> > > care about marketing.
> >
> > In the end, lost sales do count.  Mine alone will do nothing, but the more
> > often we can tell them that we have gone to a competitor who does better
> and
> > the sooner they will take notice.
> 
> Exactly. I checked out an offer from Gateway for a $399 computer. I went
> into a Gateway support chat session and asked if I could get a Gateway
> computer without an operating system. The support person said that no,
> Gateway can't sell a computer without an OS, they have an agreement with
> MS. Thank you very much, I said.
> 
> On exiting the chat, I was prompted to fill out a survey on the
> experience. Under additional comments, I asked, "I wonder how many more
> computers Gateway could sell if it didn't force customers to pay the
> Microsoft tax?"

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