Ditto here. I've bought their stuff in the past, and when they called me at
home, I had a very enjoyable conversation with them about software--just as
if they were family.

Ultimately, I don't use they software because I've been using Adobe stuff 
for years and years and I wasn't into learning something new. But this is 
one company that puts out a great product at a great price, and genuinely
seem like good people. I'd like to see these guys do well. (And see more
companies like them!)

Miark


On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:33:16 -0500
"Technoslick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have purchased (and sometimes used! :-P ) Serif's products  ever since
> they made a free version that installed from one floppy disk. It seems that
> whenever I get a call from one of their telemarketers, they are amazed at
> how long I have been a customer and begin to treat me like I am part of
> their family. Of course, if I was 'really' a partof their family, they would
> give the software to me for free! Ahem! Anyway...I have always enjoyed their
> calls, and end up having long conversations with whomever calls me. And, no
> matter whether I need it or not, I always seem to break down and buy the
> latest and the greatest they have to offer. I declined on this lastest
> updated version of PagePlus 8 + PDF since I have both PagePlus 8 and Adobe
> Acrobat 5.0.5. The software is good, and is well worth the little that they
> charge for it. The kind of money they are asking for their software is what
> all companies should be selling at. But, their software has had its failings
> and idiosyncrasies,too. I think what has been most difficult for anyone in
> the U.S. is in learning something that is layed out differently, isn't
> exactly 'the norm'. Of course, we all know what 'the norm' is, especially
> here in the States (pissst! M$!!)
> 
> I confess that after all that I have of their stuff, I never get much use
> out of it. It's not their fault that I have too many irons in my fire and
> just don't have the time to learn something new. But, Anne, this is a
> company that I would like to see do well. I like their attitude, their
> drive, and their dedication and willingness to listen to their users. I am
> sure that there is a very large entry in their system with all the 'ear
> bending' I have done with thier people over the last 8 or so years. ;-) If
> you are interested in graphical design for Desktop publishing and Web work,
> and don't need to give the output to a print beaureau (at least in the
> States), I think you will like their stuff. If they would let me transfer my
> licenses to you, I would send you the previous versions I have, just to get
> rid of them! :-)
> 
> T
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anne Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 1:41 PM
> Subject: [newbie] Sort of on-topic
> 
> 
> Yesterday I had a long conversation with Ron Cox at Serif Software.  If you
> are UK you will probably know of them, but for those who don't, they product
> inexpensive (by windows standards) software that does most of what the
> market-leading expensive software does.  Their flagship is PagePlus 8 + PDF,
> a desktop-processing program that has excellent booklet printing (A4 folded
> to  make A5 booklet, with pages printed in appropriate pairs), and can
> convert the whole to PDF.
> 
> I took the opportunity to tell him that there is a need for software like
> theirs for Linux.  This led him on to tell me that the company has now been
> bought back by the original programmer team, and are now free to make their
> own decisions about the future.
> 
> They are fully aware of the greed and bad practices of M$, and of the
> growing
> awareness in the marketplace.  He talked also of the increasing awareness of
> security issues.  They are, however, still small, and the market constrains
> them to write for the maximum market.  He said that they simply could not
> afford the development costs to write for Linux, much as they would like to,
> so they had made a conscious decision that they would write to the highest
> degree of standards compliance they could manage.  They believe that this
> will ensure that their products work with any of the windows emulators.
> 
> It's not the ideal answer, but I did like the degree of awareness I heard,
> and I think they have made the best decision they can at this stage.
> Meanwhile, before Christmas I intend to get Win4Lin and try it.
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
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