On January 16, 2003 12:38 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: not quite random <snips> responses interspersed
> > I'm positive you're right Tom but I can't for the life of me > > remember what the conflict was. oops! > > I've had a brain disease for goin on 14 years (MS), what's your > excuse ? ;ppppp <g> Three depressed skull fractures (67% of brain damaged) in 1993. Short term memory trouble since then, along with a few other minor deficits. <\g> Pardon me? Did you ask me something? Did I answer? ;-) > > > The partition table for my system hda has an ext2 /boot (250 MB) > > that hasn't been touched for over a year other than what new > > installs have put there. / is ext3 and everything else XFS. On this > > machine XFS was the fastest and seemed to work the best. > > I've for quite a while used either XFS or Reiser for /, and most > all other partitions. OK, I'll be playing the Reiser FS game then since it was close to the performance on this machine that XFS produced. The only reason I developed the habit of using ext3 for / was that it basically _was_ ext2 with a journal tagged on and things like mkbootdisk didn't complain. It just had a few glitches that XFS didn't, but that was an older version. Less repartitioning and more consistency won't upset me at all. Thanks. > > I'll be changing the two disks Mandrake has lived on so I can > > install betas whether Juan gets XFS going again or not. The last > > time I tried Reiser FS I had trouble with this old bucket. I think > > that was when 7.2 Freq was the 'latest and greatest' though. There > > have been improvements I'm certain. > > Foggy again but I believe a 2.4.21pre3 is close, an I think XFS > support is back in. FWIW tho (IMO), Reiser has always enjoyed better > kernel support than XFS. Not a Mandrake deal, a Linus and the > kernel.org crew deal. Understood. Thanks again Tom. > > > Questions: I've been considering making hdb all ext3 so I won't > > have to touch it again for a while. > > Or should it be Reiser? > > My vote, NOT ext3. I've got a few ext3 stragglers (I re-partition a > lot). MOF there was just a 1 hour power outage, the UPS saved me, but > when I have had to do a hard reset, ext3 is not much better than ext2 > for recovering. It's just ext2 with a fake journal sort'a deal tagged > on. Agreement in totality here. Ext3 is so ass dragging slow and painful that it may as well *be* ext2. The only reason the first partition on hdb is ext3 at present is the hangover from beta1 and trying to force some compatibility between 9.0 and 9.1beta1. It didn't work. I'll start clean, either with the beta (I understand there will be a beta2 shortly) or straight to cooker. Glad your UPS kept you from harm. > > > To this point that drive has been a sort of "holding tank" for > > images, downloads, music, miscellaneous what evers. I made the > > first half of it (after I cleared it) ext3 when I was first fooling > > with beta1. It's a 60 GB Maxtor. Four duplicates in fact but > > Mandrake only gets to play with the first two. Would you recommend > > making it all ext3, or all Reiser? Either is acceptable since it > > doesn't take much longer to do the back half than to do it all. > > As above, I'd go all Reiser (except for a small /boot). The ext3 > parts I'm still stuck with (also on large Maxtors) are mostly storage > parts for mp3's, movies, etc. The only reason they're still ext3 is > I'd rather not have to copy those files back from (40) CD bakups. > Since they're fairly static, recovery from a hard reset isn't a big > deal. I wouldn't want to reload all that stuff either. That's why I mentioned moving stuff around since I don't want to spend a day feeding CDs to this pig. A PIII 500 MHz on an old BX-6 Rev2 board isn't exactly a speed demon. Sounds as though the /boot is the only part of my first two disks that won't get reformatted. Understood. > > > Since I'll have to do a lot of swapping of directories and files > > before I touch another install; and I'll have to do a complete > > back-up of /home in order to change it from XFS to Reiser or ext3 > > I'd like advice on what would be the safest bet for the file system > > to use please. I can use part of the other two disks to do the > > "back-up" of the Mandrake two but I don't want to start until I'm > > sure I won't have to do it again in a week or ten days when the > > next beta comes along. > > Again ReiserFS. BTW, tho I've started usin a separate /home, I > still regularly (at least weekly) back up /home to another drive. As do I but I never mount that back-up. The only back-up I have to do when I jump in and do the deed will be whatever is in mail. Everything else was done on Saturday anyway. > > > Or should I do the b-ups, format those two disks, and install the > > latest cooker for testing? Either way I'll lose the install of 9.0 > > I have so it matters not to me. I'd just like to use a file system > > that I can stay with. > > IMO, two choices, either Reiser or XFS. For a work station > (desktop), I've found Reiser to be the better choice. I've read, as > Stephen suggested, that XFS is better for large file servers. I > don't think it enjoys as much support as Reiser does from the > kernel.org people tho. Good advice as usual Tom. Thank you. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Build a system that even a fool can use and only a fool will want to use it.
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