On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 17:55, Jordan Elver wrote:

> It's a variety. How can I copy protected cds. I noticve a thread earlier about 
> cd clone on windows. It surely must be possible to copy "bit by bit" under 
> linux? My drive is a Plextor 16/10/40A.

Yes, it's possible.  However, making your own backup copies of copy
protected cd's is only possible if you can make your burner and your
software do an elaborate dance; and they both have to be doing exotic
things.  In linux the hardware necessities you can get; the software you
cannot.

There are only two brands of burner software that I have tested that are
capable of creating backup copies of copy protected cd's with the proper
hardware.  Neither one of them run on Linux.  This is a major problem
and I wish both of the two burner software firms would port to linux. 
Either that or an enthusiastic brainiac capable of authoring a new
project.

You have what looks like a PX-W1610A; correct me if I'm wrong. You can
check the performance/capabilities of your drive on the following page:

http://www.elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/writers/p.html#plextor

If that model number above is indeed your drive, then your plextor does
NOT do correct EFM encoding.  This means wether the drive writes regular
bit patterns correctly or not, a feature necessary in order to do
correct bit for bit backup copies of copy protected CD's.  At least,
many of the more advanced copy protection schemes.  Depends on the game.


Plextor used to be an exceptional brand, however in the last few years
they have slipped considerably, at least in the bit for bit arena.  Note
that none of the drives listed on the clonecd page above will do EFM
encoding completely correctly.  This can possibly cause problems when
replicating copy protection schemes that utilize "weak sectors".  Such
as Morrowind, for example.  Having a plextor greatly reduces your
chances of success in such a situation.

When selecting a burner, and you are looking at doing bit for bit
copies, possibly with copy protected material, you absolutely need to
use the CloneCD burner evaluation list for making a decision.  Otherwise
you are walking into it blind.  I recommend Liteon brand burners as a
start; personally I have here a Toshiba SD-1202 DVD Combo drive that
burns with the correct EFM encoding, plus does RAW-DAO 96 write, and
RAW+96 read.  

http://www.elby.ch/english/products/clone_cd/writers/t.html#toshiba

This is the most desirable set of attributes; and of course to make the
deal even sweeter it also plays/reads DVDs.  It has a four sheep rating,
and has never failed me (yet) when I've made backup copies of the
toughest challenges. Diablo 2 was interesting.  Morrowind was extremely
interesting.


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